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Subject: [Leica] PESO: America, from Occupy Philadelphia
From: kcarney1 at cox.net (Ken Carney)
Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 19:45:14 -0500
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Robert,

Which "news"?  If I got my information from TV or even the recently 
discredited WSJ, I would not have a complete view.  With regard to 
Warren Buffet, I think a confiscation of income over, say, $1 million 
would accomplish nothing.  I stand to be corrected.  As always.

Best,

Ken

On 10/16/2011 7:25 PM, Robert Meier wrote:
> Ken,
>
> "The Buffet Rule:"   Haven't you been following the news?
>
> Robert
>
> On Oct 16, 2011, at 7:16 PM, Ken Carney wrote:
>
>> On 10/16/2011 6:33 PM, George Lottermoser wrote:
>>> On Oct 16, 2011, at 6:07 PM, Ken Carney<kcarney1 at cox.net>  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Wonder how all these occupiers were able to get off work for so long?
>>> Many of the Milwaukee "Occupiers" (a one Saturday event) were "laid 
>>> off" or otherwise unemployed; part of that 9.1% as well as the 99%. 
>>> I spoke with quite a few degreed professionals with 20 plus year 
>>> professional careers who have been unable to find "any" work for 4 
>>> to 12 months. Others have been forced into early retirement. Others 
>>> are serious students who can no longer finance their educations; or 
>>> find employment. The stories are many and sad. Minorities in 
>>> Milwaukee have more than 4 times that 9% unemployment rate. And 
>>> those rates do not include the people who have simply given up on 
>>> the prospect of finding work.
>>>
>>> Regards, George
>>>
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>> I hear you.  It also relates to Richard's comments about corporations 
>> hoarding cash and banks not lending...the reason is that there aren't 
>> as many opportunities for investment now.  The reverse, actually.  
>> The question is, what can our government do about it?   The 
>> government doesn't create jobs, except in a temporary and largely 
>> wasteful sense.  Large CEO salaries and taxes on the rich are 
>> irrelevant - the most draconian measures would not put a small dent 
>> in the debt.  What is needed, IMHO, is competent fiscal 
>> administration, something not present now (IMHO).  I have now 
>> escalated into a rant, which needs at least a couple of constructive 
>> suggestions.  As a tax adviser, I will probably be excommunicated for 
>> this one, but I think the current policies regarding transfer of 
>> intangible assets offshore should be revisited (Google, Cisco et 
>> al.).  All that is happening there is that the income escaping U.S. 
>> tax must be reinvested in another offshore business, else it will 
>> become income subject to U.S. tax.  So, the U.S. tax break is 
>> building industries and infrastructure in other countries.   A U.S. 
>> citizen is taxable on worldwide income, now matter where earned.  Why 
>> should it be different for a corporate business?  A second suggestion 
>> is to stop U.S. military intervention in hopeless causes, e.g., 
>> Afghanistan.  OK, a third bonus suggestion would be some way to 
>> eliminate federal pork spending, a lost cause I know.
>>
>> Lastly, I have numerous clients who have taxable income in excess of 
>> $1 million.  They all pay taxes at the highest rate.  They are also 
>> usually high charitable givers.  Who pays taxes at a lower rate?  Two 
>> instances come to mind.  One is the risk taker who is able to take a 
>> deduction for intangible drilling costs in the exploration for oil 
>> and natural gas, and that is a temporary thing.  The other is someone 
>> who has bitten on a tax shelter, with blowback potential that will 
>> greatly exceed the temporary tax savings.  EOR!
>>
>> Ken
>>
>>
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