Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2011/08/14
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Whatever. You just do not seem to accept that there are many other aspects of quality than the size of the sensor and that people may have different preferences than yours. I recently decided that I wanted a DSLR for a variety of reasons. Since I did not own any Leica R or any other SLR lenses, I could buy whatever I wanted (and yes, a full-frame DSLR was within my budget). In the end I CHOSE the Pentax K5 with its APS-C sensor and I could not be more pleased. Cheers, Nathan Nathan Wajsman Alicante, Spain http://www.frozenlight.eu http://www.greatpix.eu http://www.nathanfoto.com PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws Blog: http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/ YNWA On Aug 14, 2011, at 9:18 AM, Mark Rabiner wrote: > Well that's how I felt in the days of film. I like most photographers I > knew > used a 24x36mm format camera when that was the best for the job. But when I > needed medium format I used that and when I needed large format sheet film > I > used that. > Now that its digital I also anticipate getting when I can into medium > format > as that level of quality is for sure much fantastic a step up and and worth > it. Two things are slowing me down. The extreme cost. And the fact that a > full frame DSLR can do so much. From the very beginning people were saying > that a full frame DSLR replaced medium format. I never bought that opinion. > Bu they do have a point. Its way more capable than film SLR's of the 35mm > variety. You feel less like you need a Hasselblad when you are shooting a > full frame DSLR. You feel like there's nothing much you can't shoot and > shoot well when you're shooting a full frame DSLR. Or an M9 I'm sure. > This is what irks me when people with Leica R glass go out and by an APS-C > format camera and act as if its "personal preference". > Its not that cropped format shooting is so bad its that full frame > shooting > is so good. > -- > Mark R. > > > >> From: Nathan Wajsman <photo at frozenlight.eu> >> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >> Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 08:08:11 +0200 >> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >> Subject: Re: [Leica] LUG Digest, Vol 48, Issue 204 >> >> Since we now know from you that being a "real photographer" is a function >> of >> the equipment one has, I cannot imagine any real photographer shooting >> that >> wimpy little 24x36mm format any longer. >> >> Nathan Wajsman >> Alicante, Spain >> http://www.frozenlight.eu >> http://www.greatpix.eu >> http://www.nathanfoto.com >> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws >> Blog: http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/ >> >> >> YNWA >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Aug 13, 2011, at 10:52 PM, Mark Rabiner wrote: >> >>> You are putting gorgeous Leica R glass on a cheap cropped camera >>> marketed to >>> amateurs and calling it "personal choice". I think of something else to >>> call it. One can do any damned dumb thing and file it under "personal >>> choice". >>> >>> - putting Leica glass designed for full frame on a cropped camera is a >>> real >>> enigma especially the Leica glass cost what it cost and they tend to be >>> in >>> relation to Canon/Nikon - bloated; the reason being they are taking great >>> steps to make sure they are excellent way out to the edges. >>> >>> If you have great Leica R glass you want to put to good use for sure wait >>> for the extra pay checks or whatever to come in and get a full frame >>> camera. >>> Preferably a D700 or D3. >>> Putting them on a cropped camera at this point is nothing short of >>> exasperating. >>> -- >>> Mark R. >>> >>> >>> >>>> From: Aram Langhans <leicar at q.com> >>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >>>> Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 12:18:13 -0700 >>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] LUG Digest, Vol 48, Issue 204 >>>> >>>> Hi Peter. I bought the D7000 in November and have loved it. It was >>>> replacing a Canon XTi. As you have noted, the viewfinder is not as >>>> good as >>>> a D700, but it is way better than all the other cropped cameras I have >>>> seen, >>>> except maybe the Canon 7D (equal). I have converted a few Leica R >>>> lenses to >>>> Nikon mount and they work well. My biggest concern was the viewfinder >>>> of my >>>> old Rebel, but the D7000 viewfinder is very usable for my 61 year old >>>> eyes. >>>> >>>> I opted for it rather than the D700 mainly for size and weight. I have >>>> no >>>> doubt that the D700 is a better body, but it was not that much better >>>> that >>>> size/weight did not win out hand down with the D7000. I can easily get >>>> usable photos at ISO 1600. Not needed to go any higher yet, so I am not >>>> sure about 3200. Easy button placement compared to my Rebel. If you >>>> are >>>> really into telephoto shots (don't think you are), then the crop factor >>>> helps a lot. Less weighty lenses and less expensive lenses, and using >>>> the >>>> "sweet spot" of the sensor. Wide angle is another issue, but solvable. >>>> I >>>> did not have any real wide Leica glass, so I have opted for Nikon glass >>>> to >>>> get me wide. >>>> >>>> I think Marty sums it up nicely. Personal choice based on the >>>> advantages of >>>> each for your shooting style. Quality, I don't think you can go wrong >>>> with >>>> either. >>>> >>>> Aram >>>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >