Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2011/07/28
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Thank you Richard, I'm not sure what uncompressed midtones look like so I sent Marty a "raw" scan. I am hoping that he could demonstrate what he meant. OK, I just did another "interpretation" from a raw scan. Sorry, I don't have time to spot and do other cosmetic thing, but is this one better, regarding the midtones? http://www.5pmlight.com/PICS/20110726-34-N.jpg Thanks! On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 8:16 AM, Richard Wasserman <disfromage at ameritech.net > wrote: > I agree with Marty about the mid-tones being compressed. > > I know that 2-bath developers have some benefits, but I have found that > using Pyrocat normally has enough high-light compensation that I just don't > worry about it. I of course primarily print on silver, so my experience may > not transfer perfectly to the digital world. I would suggest trying Pyrocat > at 1:1:100. Agitate briskly for the first minute and then gently every 3-4 > minutes. About 15 minutes or so at 72?F should get you in the ballpark. > > You're off to a great start! > > Richard Wasserman > > www.richardwasserman.net > > > > > On Jul 28, 2011, at 1:51 AM, Marty Deveney wrote: > > You're welcome; that version is better, but the compression is still >> visible - if it's in the original you can't manipulate your way around >> it very effectively or easily. >> >> Marty >> >> On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 4:15 PM, Richard Man <richard at imagecraft.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Thanks Marty, I will play with the 2-bath Pyrocat-HD more to get the >>> maximum >>> out of it. I tweaked the image a little bit to giv it a little bit more >>> mid-punch. Not sure if it helps or not. >>> >>> Thanks again for the advice. >>> >>> On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 10:08 PM, Marty Deveney <benedenia at gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> I really like this process too - pyrocat developers are really sharp. >>>> The shot of your wife on the bike shows some of the midtone >>>> compression that is a problem with all two-bath developers (the only >>>> real way I found to solve it is with more exposure and more >>>> development) but particularly ones like pyrocat where the A-bath >>>> really doesn't hve enough alkali in it to initiate development. With >>>> almost all other formulae - divided D76, Diafine, whatever, the A bath >>>> has enough sulfite or other alkali in it to raise the pH enough for >>>> some development to begin. Shoot a few frames, run them through the >>>> A-bath of a two-part developer and then fix if you would like >>>> evidence. >>>> >>>> You can clean your reels very effectively in a dishwasher - the >>>> alkaline detergents used in those machines, combined with the heat, >>>> effectively remove any residues on the reels - and when you pull them >>>> out they are dry (so if they are plastic they are ready to load up >>>> again right away). >>>> >>>> Marty >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>> // richard <http://www.imagecraft.com/> >>> // icc blog: <http://imagecraft.com/blog/> >>> // richard's personal photo blog: <http://www.5pmlight.com> >>> [ For technical support on ImageCraft products, please include all >>> previous >>> replies in your msgs. ] >>> >>> ______________________________**_________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See >>> http://leica-users.org/**mailman/listinfo/lug<http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug>for >>> more information >>> >>> >> ______________________________**_________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See >> http://leica-users.org/**mailman/listinfo/lug<http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug>for >> more information >> > > > ______________________________**_________________ > Leica Users Group. > See > http://leica-users.org/**mailman/listinfo/lug<http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug>for > more information > -- // richard <http://www.imagecraft.com/> // icc blog: <http://imagecraft.com/blog/> // richard's personal photo blog: <http://www.5pmlight.com> [ For technical support on ImageCraft products, please include all previous replies in your msgs. ]