Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2011/06/28

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Subject: [Leica] M lens 21mm F2.8 pre ASPH
From: sonc.hegr at gmail.com (Sonny Carter)
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 21:55:13 -0500
References: <CA2FC4B4.DF41%manolito@videotron.ca> <CA3008FC.10F49%mark@rabinergroup.com>

Why do I like it? I guess I'm a damn fool.

On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 9:41 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> 
wrote:
> There is plenty wrong with the 21 per ASPH its incredibly high degree of
> distortion is the main one. The Zeiss is way way better corrected on all
> accounts. Its not a better deal its a better lens. By far.
> When Leica's 21 came out it was a well known dog. People continued to ?use
> their super Angulons on a camera without a meter. Or just used a ?hand held
> meter.
> But the ASPH version changed that. The ASPH version was a way whole
> different ball game. ?Instead of being dismal; it was terrific. Probalby 
> the
> best 21 out there certainly better than Canon Nikon.
>
> There is no reason to buy a pre ASPH 21. None. Other then someone's giving
> you one for 10 bucks and you're making pictures for you blind grandmother.
> It does not have creamier tones preferred by experts who don't like
> supposedly ASPH's.
> Its got nothing. You can use the meter with it.
> Its the last 21 you'd ever want to use. You're better off with offerings
> from Canon or Nikon or Minolta or Pentax.
> Tamron. Spirotone.
> Even an M8 deserves a better lens than this on the front of it.
>
>
> Mark William Rabiner
>
>
>
>> From: Emanuel Lowi <manolito at videotron.ca>
>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>> Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 17:49:41 -0400
>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] M lens 21mm F2.8 pre ASPH
>>
>> The 21/2.8 Elmarit-M is probably the least loved of the Leica M 21s, but
>> it's playing in some tough company. The 21/3.4 was such a classic and a 
>> hard
>> act to follow, but a new lens was needed to allow TTL metering with 
>> cameras
>> from the M5 and afterwards.
>>
>> There's nothing desperately wrong with the 21/2.8 E-M -- many fine photos
>> have been made with it -- and if you can get one in great condition at a
>> bargain price (say, under $1K), it's a good choice.
>>
>> I bet the Zeiss ZM 21/2.8 is also a great value.
>>
>> For me, 21s are lenses for crowded and cramped interiors, so f2.8 as a
>> maximum aperture is very useful indeed.
>>
>> These two pictures were taken with the 21/2.8 ASPH, the first under the
>> Arctic sea ice at low tide, the second inside an igloo:
>>
>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/emanuellowi/Nunavik-Inuit/5_G.jpg.html
>>
>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/emanuellowi/Nunavik-Inuit/17_G.jpg.html
>>
>> Emanuel
>>
>>
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Regards,

Sonny
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Natchitoches, Louisiana

USA


In reply to: Message from manolito at videotron.ca (EPL) ([Leica] M lens 21mm F2.8 pre ASPH)
Message from mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner) ([Leica] M lens 21mm F2.8 pre ASPH)