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Subject: [Leica] Bad times without liters.
From: mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner)
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 01:36:09 -0400

What a about the cow story ted! The famous one which can gross out the weak
at heart!?!?!

Mark




> From: Ted Grant <tedgrant at shaw.ca>
> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 08:50:59 -0700
> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Bad times without ilters.
> 
> Bill Pearce ofered:
> 
> Subject: [Leica] Bad times without ilters.
> 
> 
>> There are times when a filter is easily called for.  I once learned this
>> the hard way. I was working as an assistant to a commercial shooter, and
>> was sent to take photos of something (I forget what) being welded. I went
>> with a Hasselblad 500CM , a 40mm and an 80mm lens. I have always adhered
>> to the advice about if my photos aren't' good enough, so not liking what I
>> was seeing through the 80, I put on the 40. Wow, what great photos! Also,
>> wow what great great pieces of slag were now bonded to the front element.
>> Replacing the front element was more expensive than replacing a
>> filter.<<<<<<<<
> 
> Hi Bill,
> The reverse of that is  "USE A LONGER LENS AND REACH IN FROM FARTHER AWAY!"
> :-)
> 
> I learned that one while doing a documentary about farmers who still mainly
> relied on "Horse power" to keep their farms operating. About 7 a.m. one
> morning we were at the blacksmith shop getting a couple horses re-shoed and
> some other piece of gear welded when I wanted to be right in there with the
> flying sparks streaking by when one molten bit landed smack dab in the
> middle of the lens creating a zit mark! Damn says I, thinking it being the
> end of the lens.
> 
> However as long as I worked wide open the zit never showed, period. Stop
> down a couple and sure enough you could make out some kind of mark.  So I
> just bought a new lens and got on with the project. Sold the spotted lens 
> to
> a rather unsuspecting chap whom I explained everything about how the lens
> worked. He wasn't deterred simply because as he said ......... "I never 
> stop
> down in any event as I'm always looking for the wide open effect." He was
> happy for a cheap price and I was glad for a few extra dollars for my new
> lens.
> 
> After that incident I immediately changed my shooting electric welding to a
> longer lens and farther back.
> Actually worked vey well. :-) Also better for one's eyes!
> 
> cheers,
> Dr. ted :-)
>> 
>> Bill Pearce, who now keeps good quality filters available.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Chris Williams
>> Sent: Monday, June 20, 2011 12:49 AM
>> To: Leica Users Group
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Good Times with Bad Filters. IT'S BETTER WITHA
>> CLEANING CLOTH! :-)
>> 
>> Love the Dr.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Chris Williams
>> www.zoeicaimages.net
>> www.rebirthworkshops.com
>> 504-231-6261
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jun 20, 2011, at 12:47 AM, tedgrant at shaw.ca wrote:
>> 
>>> Lens shades and filters!!!!!!!
>>> 
>>> I'm probably going to freak out many of you folks after you read  this
>>> from 61 years of professional experience. :-)
>>> 
>>> 1/ Noctilux f1.0!  This lens has never had a filter on it since it  was
>>> purchased! The first Noctilux for sale in Canada somewhere  around 1972?
>>> And used under so many weather, sand, oceans, dust and  operating rooms,
>>> Olympics & you name it places and conditions. It's  been used during more
>>> assignments than any of you can imagine.  Not  a mark on the glass even
>>> when using a loupe to look for stuff. :-)
>>> 
>>> Then about '81-'82 one of the pins holding the lens shade on fell  out of
>>> the lens barrel and it was going to cost a fortune to have a  new one
>>> installed by Leica. So in my great wisdom I threw the lens  shade in the
>>> gear cabinet at that time and it's not had a filter nor  lenshood for
>>> roughly 30 years and guess what? Still no marks under  the inspection by
>>> a Loupe!
>>> 
>>> And guess what again? Regardless of what may come back in comments  I'm
>>> not changing my use routine no matter what anyone may offer as  good
>>> advice! :-) So save your breathe ladies and gentlemen, please  enjoy your
>>> time taking more productive photographs.Thank you. :-)
>>> 
>>> As for filters & protection? Truly a bit of a myth if you drop a  brand
>>> new 80-200 f4.0 twenty feet to a marble floor. Trust me the  filter never
>>> helped one iota! :-) The lens & filter of course were  completely
>>> destroyed! OOPS!!!!!! :-(
>>> 
>>> Oh well such is life on some assignments. That's one of those life
>>> testing moments in breathing! ;-) OR NOT! :-)
>>> 
>>> Those who are adamant about using filters for protection generally  over
>>> state their worth simply because... no matter who makes the  filter?  It
>>> provides two more surfaces to interfere with the image  entering your
>>> camera. Constantly keeping them clean is just another  pain during the
>>> actions of taking photographs.
>>> 
>>> I'm a great believer in using Polarizing filters to enhance a scene,  but
>>> other than that it's about the only filter I've used on a  regular basis.
>>> 
>>> Yes many many years ago I had the usual suggested "ONE MUST HAVE!"
>>> filters for b&W film use, yellow, orange, red, UV various sizes for
>>> various Leica sized lenses. But as the years went by they became  more of
>>> display articles in the gear cabinet.
>>> 
>>> Then thrown in my face many times are the.... "Cleaning people
>>> comments!" My reaction is..."Get over it!"  Blow the dust off the  lens,
>>> breath hot and heavy on the glass then use your shirt tail and  clean it
>>> up. Or as I've repeated many times on list over the past  years, this
>>> one!
>>> 
>>> Those who wear cotton under shorts and you sit on them day after  day,
>>> year after year, washed and worn, again and again, are creating  the
>>> softest lens cleaning cloth imaginable. Hey come on I'm  serious! :-)
>>> 
>>> How? Well your sitting on them until you or your wife tells you....  "You
>>> need new under shorts!" :-) So you take the old ones and with a  pair of
>>> scissors cut out the largest piece of sit upon material and  throw the
>>> rest away. Don't panic they are well washed before you go  through this
>>> routine, so relax! :-) I can hear some of you cringing   as though you
>>> are about to use a baby's dirty diaper! Get over  it! :-) It's nice super
>>> soft cotton material! No scratching,  guaranteed! :-)
>>> 
>>> Now you put that cloth in a small plastic bag and keep it or them in
>>> your camera bag and you'll always have clean scratch free lenses!.
>>> 
>>> I know you'll appreciate these words of wisdom from the old Doc! ;-)
>>> Your welcome! ;-) Thank you. :-)
>>> 
>>> cheers,
>>> Dr. ted :-)
>>> 
>> 
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