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Subject: [Leica] Another R option (now M9)
From: frank.dernie at btinternet.com (FRANK DERNIE)
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 11:34:20 +0100 (BST)
References: <CA1DF8D1.103F0%mark@rabinergroup.com>

If any change of sensor reduced the image quality just to improve high iso 
noise 
I would not buy it. Otherwise why not?
If the main criterion is high iso photography, which seems to get the 
internet 
photographers all-abuzz, then there are dozens of suitable cameras 
available. I 
have some. I hardly ever use them since:
a) they are not as nice to use.
b) they are big and heavy
c) The results I get are inferior.
YMMV
FD


----- Original Message ----
From: Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com>
To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
Sent: Wednesday, 15 June, 2011 10:51:13
Subject: Re: [Leica] Another R option (now M9)

A much smaller niche now than in the 90's in the days of the M6 Geoff.
Leica is now paying Magnum photographers to be seen with M's in their hands
and calling it a "Partnership".  A PR quagmire as its fooling nobody when
what need to happen is the sensor upgraded. When that happens the
photographers will be paying for the cameras not the other way around.

EVERY Magnum photogeek in the 90's used M's. Read BEST photographers in the
world. And people would say then "nobody" was using them.  People knew
differently.  "Nobody" then meant not the masses of photogs but the very
best photogs were certainly using M6's. Not a bad niche to be in.

NONE of the Magman photograms are now using M9's.  So now "nobody" means
"nobody" for sure. Its not a niche at all its pretty much nobody. The full
frame sensor did not do it as to tear them away from their DSLR's they're
NOT going to go down 4 f stops in iso speed to do that.

But again I'll say when that sensor is upgraded they will follow.

If you build it they will come.

Mark Rabiner




> From: Geoff Hopkinson <hopsternew at gmail.com>
> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 14:51:12 +1000
> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Another R option (now M9)
> 
> That will be news to the 200% more customers since the M9 was released!
> It has been a niche camera and not a mainstream choice for pros for quite
> some time certainly.
> 
> Cheers
> Geoff



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