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Subject: [Leica] Digital Pinhole for Micro 4/3
From: ricc at embarqmail.com (Ric Carter)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 00:06:45 -0400
References: <4DB9EC4B.3090701@halcyon.com>

thx

ric


On Apr 28, 2011, at 6:38 PM, Larry Bullis wrote:

> A pinhole really doesn't have a "focal length"; the location of the 
> pinhole establishes the perspective. There can be no formula for 
> determination of the size of the image circle that covers everybody 
> because all pinholes are not the same. The typical drilled ones (laser, 
> mechanical, makes no difference) are actually small tubes, which limits 
> their coverage. The best pinholes are made in extremely thin material and 
> have knife-sharp edges, or the closest approximation to that possible.
> 
> The various sites that George mentions will give you formulae for the size 
> of the hole needed, but it might be important to note that each formula is 
> predicated upon certain assumptions. These include the tradeoff between 
> resolution and diffraction, and the particular wavelength that one accepts 
> as a standard. Generally, the wavelength is assumed to be in the green 
> range. As for resolution/diffraction, unless you want something unusual, 
> like enhanced diffraction colors, a published formula ought to work fine 
> for you.
> 
> Now, MAKING the hole to spec - that's another issue! If you buy one, you 
> get a tube.
> 
>> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 20:26:54 -0700
>> From: Richard Man <richard at imagecraft.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Digital Pinhole for Micro 4/3
>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>> Message-ID: <BANLkTikApUO4=AwX4Ww0pHCDNzsvzGcsdQ at mail.gmail.com>
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>> 
>> How does one calculate the effective length of a pinhole? Is the "body 
>> cap"
>> distance the "normal" distance for most format? e.g. 50mm for SLR? And how
>> is the size of image circle calculated?
>> 
>> On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 8:10 PM, Jayanand Govindaraj <jayanand at 
>> gmail.com>wrote:
>> 
>>> > Ken,
>>> > Nice shots. I was also thinking of buying this - it is inexpensive 
>>> > enough
>>> > for an experiment!
>>> > Cheers
>>> > Jayanand
>>> >
>>> > On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 5:19 AM, Ken Carney <kcarney1 at cox.net> 
>>> > wrote:
>>> >
>>>> > > Jayanand,
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Thanks for posting, I may give this one a try.  I like pinhole, but 
>>>> > > only
>>>> > > wide angle pinhole.   My favorite pinhole camera is a Leonardo 4x5" 
>>>> > > with
>>> > a
>>>> > > 1.5" focal length, which is roughly 15mm in 35mm terms.  I have an 
>>>> > > 8x10"
>>>> > > pinhole with the same approximate equivalent.   22mm is not as good 
>>>> > > as
>>> > 15mm,
>>>> > > but a whole lot better than 50mm, which is what you get with the SLR
>>> > pinhole
>>>> > > caps.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Here is an 8x10 "super" wide angle image:
>>>> > > http://www.kencarney.com/Places/tif_0025_std.html
>>>> > > And one with the Leonardo 4x5:
>>>> > > http://www.kencarney.com/Nature/psd_0041_std.html
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Best,
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Ken
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > > On 4/27/2011 12:07 AM, Jayanand Govindaraj wrote:
>>>> > >
>>>>> > >> Looks interesting:
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >>
>>> > http://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/2011/04/pinwide.html
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >> http://wanderlustcameras.com/
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >> Cheers
>>>>> > >> Jayanand
>>>>> > >>
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>> 
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