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Subject: [Leica] Cheap Leica systems
From: steve.barbour at gmail.com (Steve Barbour)
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 13:30:55 -0800
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On Mar 10, 2011, at 12:43 PM, Philip Forrest wrote:

> I don't know where one can find a rigid Summicron, 35 Summaron AND 90
> Elmar for $500 total. Maybe 10 years ago but not today. Please let me
> know! hahahaha. I've been looking for another rigid 'cron for about a
> year and the least expensive user I've found so far was just over $500.

try here for a cheapo...

http://www.collectiblecameras.com/home.php?cat=380


Steve


> Missed that one by a few minutes. Summarons go for between $300 and
> $800. 90 Elmars run about $100. 
> I haven't seen a $500 M body that didn't need significant repair in
> years. Maybe the odd yard sale find that we only hear about on the
> internet, but realistically speaking, if one shops around for a month
> or two and buys the best working user bargains you can, the would-be
> Leica shooter is still in around $2000 for a M body and 3 lens kit.
> 
> As for the collectors, I know one man who has 11 M3 bodies in vaults.
> Those re just his M3s. He has a collection of every other production
> Leica made and a few bodies apiece. There is no reason for that, small
> run production numbers or not. If all of the cameras in vaults suddenly
> appeared for sale at reasonable prices, the price of our regular pool of
> used gear would have to go down.
> I see this every day with fellow students who ask to borrow my M4 and a
> lens. A few of them desperately want to get into Leica but they just
> can't afford it. They're not poor, either. Most of them are waving
> around D300s and EOS 5d IIs with pro level lenses on them but can't
> justify the still high prices on used, sometimes beaten Leica gear.
> 
> Phil Forrest
> 
> 
> On Thu, 10 Mar 2011 14:42:06 -0500
> Ho-Tak <junolau at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Where can I find those stores?
>> I am still new to NYC and really only know Adorama and B&H...
>> 
>> Juno
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 10:44 AM, Lawrence Zeitlin
>> <lrzeitlin at gmail.com>wrote:
>> 
>>> Frank Dernie is right. You can get into the Leica system for the
>>> price of a digital Canon Rebel. But you have to forget about
>>> appearances. A stroll through the NYC camera stores revealed that
>>> you can buy a functional M body,
>>> either a M2, M3, or M4 for less than $500. Sure the vulcanite may be
>>> chipped
>>> and there may be small dents and scratches on the body but, what
>>> the hell, its a user, isn't it? A first or second generation 50 mm
>>> Summicron, a 35 mm Summaron, and a 90 mm Elmar will collectively
>>> set you back another $500. Or you can go even cheaper, and some say
>>> better, by picking up Canon lens equivalents. A few years back, I
>>> bought a Leica IIIc in good working condition from a NYC pawn shop
>>> for $150. It even came with a nice f3.5 50 mm
>>> Elmar. I got viewfinders and brass Leica cartridges out of camera
>>> store junk
>>> boxes for the price of a couple of Big Macs. Treasure hunting
>>> through old well established camera stores and photo district pawn
>>> shops is fun. You never know what you will discover. It's easier to
>>> find good, functional Leica gear than it is to locate the Holy
>>> Grail or the Ark of the Covenant. But, remember, if you buy into
>>> the old Leica system, you have to use film. Larry Z
>>> - - - -
>>> 
>>> I just wish all the collectibles would flood the market one day
>>> instead
>>> 
>>> of sitting in vaults. Maybe it could bring the price of Leica
>>> products
>>> 
>>> down far enough that people who have wanted to get into the system
>>> could
>>> 
>>> actually afford to do so.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Phil Forrest
>>> 
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Replies: Reply from red735i at earthlink.net (Frank Filippone) ([Leica] Cheap Leica systems)
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