Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2011/03/07
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Philippe, Thanks again for your opinion and kind words, your opinion is really interesting and this could be another subject for a discussion, as said to Geoff I will intend improve the light on the face on the color version. I'm agree about the femme fatale, and the best response is yours, no age for Carmen, but on the other hand I identify very much Carmen as a Zingarella Andalousie woman, maybe for the original and traditionnal interpretation... Absolument, aucune rancune!!! bien au contraire, un plaisir! Amiti?s Lluis El 07/03/2011, a las 22:36, philippe.amard escribi?: > > Le 7 mars 11 ? 22:08, Lluis Ripoll a ?crit : > >> >> Philippe, >> >> Thank you very much for your opinion. Definitely I love the Carmen >> role, but this one don't represent Carmen for me, first at all she >> has not a Spanish face, she is probably from Latin America, >> secondly - and this is a very interesting subject to discuss - I >> don't conceive Carmen as a mature woman, I think was Mortier >> (Brussel's La Monnaie Opera House Director, now of Teatro Real in >> Madrid) that has represented a Carmen as a young woman "una >> gitanilla" (a young gipsy) with the "certain inocence" and caprices >> of a wonderful seductrice young woman. Carmen is an opera I like >> very much, Merim?e has created a great role and Bizet a great >> music, when I'm in Sevilla and I walk through "El barrio de Triana" >> the Bizet's music comes automatically to mine head.... >> > > Look at her dress, her mean, her demeanour, the glint in her eyes, > everything says she wants to be a Carmensita, may have been, should > be allowed to still be - we lose all this in the conversion to BW, > an irremediable loss - why do you think she dressed up in black and > red in the first place ? > Nathan might even add "eye-contact" :-) > > Now to M?rim?e and to the opera: I don't think, but you may > disagree, that Carmen is either a Zingarella or a Spanish woman at > all; she is the incarnation of the femme fatale. And I think there's > no age for this; there are love stories in old people's homes, > drama, passion, and tension too. Carmen could even be overweight as > long as, as in Jim's latest delivery, she finds someone to look at > her differently, passionately. Could be not me though I'm afraid. > > Sans rancune? > > Bonne soir?e bandido meu :-) > Philippe le rouge et le noir as in Stendhal > > >> Mopnsieur Escamillo thank you very much.... from Don Jos? >> >> Saludos >> Lluis >> >> >> >> El 07/03/2011, a las 21:00, philippe.amard escribi?: >> >>> I beg to differ - Carmen is Carmen Luis, we can't change this so >>> it is colour. >>> http://www.google.com/images?um=1&hl=en&client=safari&rls=en&biw=1651&bih=1068&tbs=isch%3A1&sa=1&q=bizet+carmen&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq= >>> BW? no way, she'd look like an old ??? >>> >>> Amiti?s >>> Escamillo von Bizet >>> >>> Le 7 mars 11 ? 20:39, Lluis Ripoll a ?crit : >>> >>>> >>>> Alan, >>>> >>>> Thank you very much for your opinion, the LUG is a fantastic >>>> place! I see... I was wrong. As Ted has said once, one self is >>>> the worst possibe editor of his own pictures! >>>> >>>> cheers >>>> Lluis >>>> >>>> >>>> El 07/03/2011, a las 19:40, Alan Magayne-Roshak escribi?: >>>> >>>>> On Mon, 7 Mar 2011 Lluis Ripoll <lluisripollquerol at gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Mark Pope suggested that this picture could be a good B&W >>>>>> candidate...., here you are: >>>>> >>>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/Barcelona/L1018691BWS.jpg.html >>>>> >>>>>> As said ....I think color version is better >>>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/Barcelona/L1018691w.jpg.html >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks for looking, your c&c will be appreciated >>>>> >>>>>> Saludos cordiales >>>>>> Lluis >>>>> = >>>>> = >>>>> = >>>>> = >>>>> = >>>>> = >>>>> = >>>>> = >>>>> = >>>>> = >>>>> = >>>>> = >>>>> = >>>>> = >>>>> = >>>>> = >>>>> = >>>>> = >>>>> = >>>>> = >>>>> = >>>>> = >>>>> = >>>>> = >>>>> = >>>>> = >>>>> = >>>>> = >>>>> = >>>>> = >>>>> = >>>>> = >>>>> = >>>>> = >>>>> = >>>>> = >>>>> = >>>>> = >>>>> = >>>>> = >>>>> = >>>>> = >>>>> = >>>>> = >>>>> = >>>>> = >>>>> = >>>>> = >>>>> = >>>>> = >>>>> = >>>>> = >>>>> = >>>>> = >>>>> = >>>>> = >>>>> = >>>>> = >>>>> = >>>>> = >>>>> = >>>>> = >>>>> = >>>>> = >>>>> = >>>>> = >>>>> = >>>>> = >>>>> = >>>>> = >>>>> = >>>>> = >>>>> = >>>>> = >>>>> = >>>>> = >>>>> = >>>>> = >>>>> = >>>>> = >>>>> = >>>>> = >>>>> = >>>>> = >>>>> = >>>>> = >>>>> = >>>>> = >>>>> = >>>>> = >>>>> = >>>>> = >>>>> ================================================================== >>>>> Lluis, I think the B&W is better. The color one is too much >>>>> about the red in the dress (and background). The B&W lets us >>>>> see her face and appreciate her as a person; the color is too >>>>> murky for us to relate to the expression. >>>>> >>>>> Alan >>>>> >>>>> Alan Magayne-Roshak, Senior Photographer >>>>> UPAA POY 1978 >>>>> University Information Technology Services >>>>> University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee >>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Alan+Magayne-Roshak/ >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>>> information >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>> information >>>> >>> NO ARCHIVE >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information