Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2010/10/25
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Thanks! This BS pontification about my camera is better than your camera or my sensor is bigger than your sensor or whatnot smacks of elementary-school arguments. "I'll go fight you out at the far end of the baseball field" type crap. I'd love to open up my sailor's vocabulary here but we're all civil on this list. What one person chooses to shoot with is that person's choice. Doesn't the image matter anymore? Well, if it was taken with a camera that doesn't have X amount of square footage of recording medium, apparently not, according to some. The choice of one person's gear is not a personal attack on another person's choice of gear. That's why we have companies that put out different products. If they were all the same, there would be no point in competition. People use what they like. Some photographers use tiny point & shoots, some use Nikon APS-C cameras, some use FX cameras, some use Canon APS-C cameras, APS-H cameras, or full-frame cameras. Some people use 6x6, 6x7, 6x9, 6x12, 6x17. some use larger formats. With this kind of thinking, none of us are serious unless we use a friggin' 20x24" polaroid, so all the "miniature format" work we've all done is for naught. Don't even bring up professionals because they use the tools they need to get the job done and a whole range of formats is used, not just full frame whatever. This thread and the camera masturbation that has come from it is absolutely ridiculous at this point. I'm guilty too of participating so I'm going to make it a point to post a new photo every day, if it kills me, and it won't. Just let people shoot whatever size medium they want. If HCB were alive & on this list when he retired would we have all taken up painting because the medium weren't right? Hopefully this thread dies soon or Ted tells us all to shut up & shoot. Just go make nice photos. Phil Forrest On Mon, 25 Oct 2010 21:19:06 -0700 Richard Man <richard at imagecraft.com> wrote: > That's just a sensible thing to say :-) > > > On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 9:18 PM, Phil <photo.forrest at earthlink.net> > wrote: > > > Why should anyone care what someone else uses? It's a choice for > > each person. Let everyone make their own choices, whatever they may > > be, respect them for that choice, whatever it is and get on with > > life. > > > > Phil Forrest > > > > > > On Mon, 25 Oct 2010 23:46:28 -0400 > > Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote: > > > > > I wonder why it is that 99.9999% of photographers out there are > > > using Canon Nikon and about 3 of them are going to invest in an > > > unknown entity from a non camera company like this Sony system to > > > do their work? > > > > > > Walkman > > > Home Audio > > > Televisions > > > These are known Sony entities. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------- > > > Mark William Rabiner > > > Photography > > > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ > > > mark at rabinergroup.com > > > Cars: http://tinyurl.com/2f7ptxb > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: James Laird <digiratidoc at gmail.com> > > > > Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > > > > Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2010 21:58:59 -0500 > > > > To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > > > > Subject: Re: [Leica] D700 > > > > > > > > Gene, > > > > > > > > Then they didn't have a 900. Look for one. It's built like a > > > > tank, with magnesium alloy body and rubber weather seals and > > > > gaskets, unlike most of the others in the alpha series. A > > > > little noisy, but no worse than a D300. And you can use R glass > > > > with an adapter, I used my old 400 5.6 on it's shoulder stock > > > > today, and of course there's the Zeiss glass if you can afford > > > > it. A little noisy (photo-wise) at higher ISOs, but the noise > > > > is more like film grain, not objectionable at all to me. The > > > > kicker for me, besides the wonderful finder and the resolution, > > > > was always having IS, built in, which was extremely helpful > > > > with the 400. Imagine a circa 1968 Leica Telyt with IS. (As you > > > > can tell I really love this camera.) ;-) > > > > > > > > Jim Laird > > > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 8:45 PM, <grduprey at mchsi.com> wrote: > > > >> Jim, > > > >> > > > >> No, it has been a year and a half since I looked at a Sony > > > >> DSLR, no dealers in this area. The finders of those I looked > > > >> at were not equal to the R8. Going to Texas in December, I > > > >> will see if I can try one then. > > > >> > > > >> Gene > > > >> > > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > > > >> From: "James Laird" <digiratidoc at gmail.com> > > > >> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org> > > > >> Sent: Monday, October 25, 2010 3:59:44 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada > > > >> Central Subject: Re: [Leica] D700 > > > >> > > > >> Gene, > > > >> > > > >> Have you looked at the Sony A900? Extremely good 24 mp sensor > > > >> with an astoundingly good viewfinder which reminds me of the > > > >> great finders on the Nikon F et al/Leica SL and SL2. Great > > > >> camera although not cheap, except by Leica standards. ;-) > > > >> > > > >> Jim Laird > > > >> > > > >> On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 9:55 PM, <grduprey at mchsi.com> wrote: > > > >>> Already tried Canon with R glass and was underwhelmed. Don't > > > >>> care for Sony DSLRs, even less as I don't care for canon > > > >>> DSLRs. I'll take DMR with R glass anyway over the > > > >>> alternatives. > > > >>> > > > >>> Cheers, > > > >>> Gene > > > >>> > > > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > > > >>> From: "Richard Man" <richard at imagecraft.com> > > > >>> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org> > > > >>> Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2010 1:20:09 AM GMT -06:00 > > > >>> US/Canada Central Subject: Re: [Leica] D700 > > > >>> > > > >>> Some guy on the GETDIP showed some pictures with a 900+ Leica > > > >>> R glass. Of course they are only web JPG so you can't really > > > >>> tell, but they look good and the person likes the combo. > > > >>> > > > >>> Someone should really compare these combos (DMR vs. A900+R vs. > > > >>> Canikon + R) for the poor suffering R glass users :-) > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 11:16 PM, <afirkin at afirkin.com> wrote: > > > >>> > > > >>>>> I was thinking more like a Sony A900 with some Zeiss > > > >>>>> primes . . . actually . . . > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Marty > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Has anyone tried the Sony especially with re-mounted leica > > > >>>> glass? I'm tempted, but there are quite a few "downsides" > > > >>>> etc to consider. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Cheers > > > >>>> > > > >>>> alastair > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> _______________________________________________ > > > >>>> Leica Users Group. > > > >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more > > > >>>> information > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> -- > > > >>> // richard <http://www.imagecraft.com/> > > > >>> // icc blog: <http://imagecraft.com/blog/> > > > >>> // photo blog: <http://www.5pmlight.com> > > > >>> [ For technical support on ImageCraft products, please include > > > >>> all previous replies in your msgs. ] > > > >>> > > > >>> _______________________________________________ > > > >>> Leica Users Group. > > > >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more > > > >>> information > > > >>> > > > >>> _______________________________________________ > > > >>> Leica Users Group. > > > >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more > > > >>> information > > > >>> > > > >> > > > >> _______________________________________________ > > > >> Leica Users Group. > > > >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more > > > >> information > > > >> > > > >> _______________________________________________ > > > >> Leica Users Group. > > > >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more > > > >> information > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Leica Users Group. > > > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more > > > > information > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Leica Users Group. > > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more > > > information > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Leica Users Group. > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > >