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Subject: [Leica] Which camera to take to Israel?
From: mark at whitedogs.co.uk (Mark Pope)
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 11:18:41 +0100
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Peter,

my wife Karin has a frozen shoulder too, so I know (albeit secondhand) 
how debilitating this condition can be.

With regard to your outfit(s), I would be inclined to take the M8.
If weight is really at a premium, then you may find you could get away 
with the 35mm f1.4 and 90mm lenses.  The whole outfit would easily fit 
in a fanny pack.  I often have the M8 with 28 or 35 and 90 in a small 
Lowepro pack.  No weight on necks, shoulders (or in my case, lower 
back).  You'll get good low-light capability with the 35mm and it sits 
nicely in between the 28mm and 50mm lenses.

The second option for me would be 28/50/90.  The  28 f3.5 is pretty 
dinky, so wouldn't take up much space or add very much weight.

Have you compared the weights of the two outfits - I can't imagine that 
there is that much in it to be honest.





Mark Pope,
Swindon, Wilts
UK

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Peter Klein wrote:
>  It looks like we are going to Israel for 2 weeks later this fall. It 
> will be our first time there. We'll be spending the first week in and 
> near Tel Aviv and Haifa, sometimes on our own and sometimes with 
> relatives who live there. Then we'll take a weeklong bus tour around the 
> country. We'll be moving around quite a bit, mostly on foot or in buses. 
> So whatever I take will be carried around a lot.
> 
> I'll have a decision to make about cameras. I could take:
> 
>     * M8, 28/3.5 VC, 35/2 or 35/1.4, maybe 50/1.5 and/or 90/3.5 VC.  
> This is what I usually travel with.
>     * G1, 14-54 f/4-ish  kit zoom, 20/1.7, and VC 90/3.5. This worked 
> pretty well for me on my recent Canada trip.
> 
> Right now, the heart is saying Leica and the head is saying G1. I have a 
> painful "frozen" right shoulder, which probably won't get better until 
> next year sometime, so it's better to keep things light on my neck and 
> other shoulder.  I'm also developing a cataract on my right (shooting) 
> eye.  So far it's just softened things a little and lowered my visual 
> contrast.  My glasses still correct my right eye to 20/20, so it's 
> nowhere near the surgery stage.  It's not really hurt my ability to 
> focus yet, but it has reduced my confidence.
> 
> In favor of the M8:
> 
>     * Higher image quality.
>     * If I want a big print for my wall, likelier to have sufficient IQ.
>     * Better low-light ability for family, dusk & night shots, or cloudy 
> days.
>     * Optical VF and no blackout, so faster to shoot and get what I saw.
>     * No issues with autofocus focusing on the wrong thing
>     * All the controls are where God and HCB intended  :-)
>     * What's the point of having a Leica if I don't take it on a 
> highlight-of-my-life trip?
>     * Camera is insured
>     * I could take a fanny pack or photo vest to keep some of the weight 
> off the bad shoulder
> 
> In favor of the G1:
> 
>     * Image quality, while not Leica, is probably good enough esp. in 
> sunlight and 8x10-ish or less.
>     * Significantly lighter, smaller kit
>     * The 20/1.7 is a great lens; I'm still covered for reasonable lower 
> light, though not for true "available dark"
>     * Won't be changing lenses nearly so often.
>     * More versatile.
>     * The 90/3.5 makes a great almost-200m equivalent.
>     * Don't have to worry about focusing (except for the 90).
>     * If it gets damaged or stolen, it's not the end of the world.
>     * Built-in flash for family snaps if necessary, and for fill in the 
> bright desert.
>     * Won't have to worry about cleaning the sensor (dust-buster built-in).
> 
> What do you think?  There are some genuine trade-offs here, and I really 
> could go either way.
> 
> --Peter
> 
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