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Subject: [Leica] Some pics -> Chris Saganich
From: lluisripollquerol at gmail.com (Lluis Ripoll Querol)
Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 01:36:53 +0200
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Hi Marty,

I've never used Xtol on my Lab days, I was using HC110, D-76 , ID11,  
and TMax for the TMAX film. I'm agree with your description about the  
smooth look and larger tonal scale, and I like as they do threir work.

Cheers
Lluis



El 25/09/2010, a las 1:14, Marty Deveney escribi?:

> I won't guess what's been done with Lluis' photos without seeing the
> negs, but Xtol was introduced in 1996.  The associated patent
> 5,853,964 was files in December 1997.
>
> The bromide and iodide makes replenished Xtol mushier, not sharper.
> The negs take on a smooth look, with a slightly longer tonal scale.
> The developing times increase, sometimes a lot.  You need to
> frequently run Black-and-White Film Process Control Strips and
> establish your normal times from them. It's not always predictable how
> much the times will increase as you go on with the replenishment.
>
> Sudden failure of Xtol has been ameliorated partly by Kodak dropping
> the 1L packages, but the ascorbate will still oxidise if you fail to
> mix as per the instructions (Particularly about completely dissolving
> part A before adding part B), if you use water with too many metal
> ions in it, or if you leave the mixed stock solution exposed to aerial
> oxidation for too long.
>
> Marty
>
>
> On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 12:15 AM, Chris Saganich
> <chs2018 at med.cornell.edu> wrote:
>>
>> Ah yes XTol.  They look good probably replenished Xtol something I  
>> want to
>> try, after the FX1 perhaps.  I like experimenting with photo  
>> chemistry and
>> have what looks like a chemical lab in my office these days.  Good  
>> thing I
>> work in building full of laboratories as it looks normal as opposed  
>> to if I
>> was a mortgage broker or some such thing.  They would probably call  
>> the cops
>> on me for cooking crank.  Xtol is perfered by large labs because it  
>> is self
>> replenishing.  Some concept!!  And it lasts forever and gets better  
>> with age
>> as all the iodine ions come into some equilibrium after 10 or so  
>> rolls which
>> boosts the edge effects.  I never tried it because my neighbor  
>> Gilles told
>> me complete zones go missing.  He may have been referring to the  
>> 1960's or
>> 70's when Xtol did do funny things to your film and then died  
>> suddenly.
>>  Apparently that is no longer the case according to APUG film guru's.
>>
>> At 04:45 PM 9/23/2010, you wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Chris,
>>>
>>> After a while I don't develop any more my B&W films, I go to a
>>> proffessional Lab, they use X-Tol
>>>
>>> thanks for looking and commenting,
>>>
>>> Saludos
>>> Lluis
>>>
>>>
>>> El 23/09/2010, a las 16:07, Chris Saganich escribi?:
>>>
>>>> Nice set of images.  What are you using on the Trix??
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> At 06:41 PM 9/22/2010, you wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/Sitges/2010080207.jpg.html
>>>>> MP, Summicron Rigid 50mm, Tri-X
>>>>>
>>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/Sitges/2010080203.jpg.html
>>>>> MP, Summicron Rigid 50mm, Tri-X
>>>>>
>>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/Sitges/2010070235.jpg.html
>>>>> MP, Elmarit 28mm ASPH, APX100
>>>>>
>>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/Sitges/2010070236.jpg.html
>>>>> MP, Elmarit 28mm ASPH, APX100
>>>>>
>>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/Sitges/ 
>>>>> 2010070232w.jpg.html
>>>>> MP, Elmarit 28mm, ASPH, APx100
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for looking, your c&c are welcome
>>>>>
>>>>> Saludos cordiales
>>>>> Lluis
>>>>>
>>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/
>>>>> http://photo.net/photos/lluisripoll
>>>>> Blog:
>>>>> http://lluisripollphotography.wordpress.com/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>
>>>> Chris Saganich MS, CPH
>>>> Senior Physicist, Office of Health Physics
>>>> Weill Medical College of Cornell University
>>>> New York Presbyterian Hospital
>>>> chs2018 at med.cornell.edu
>>>> http://intranet.med.cornell.edu/research/health_phys/
>>>> Ph. 212.746.6964
>>>> Fax. 212.746.4800
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>>>>
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>>
>> Chris Saganich MS, CPH
>> Senior Physicist, Office of Health Physics
>> Weill Medical College of Cornell University
>> New York Presbyterian Hospital
>> chs2018 at med.cornell.edu
>> http://intranet.med.cornell.edu/research/health_phys/
>> Ph. 212.746.6964
>> Fax. 212.746.4800
>> Office A-0049
>>
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