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Subject: [Leica] The world's SMALLEST 35mm lens ever for M... Not!
From: sonc.hegr at gmail.com (Sonny Carter)
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 13:01:24 -0500
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On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 12:52 PM, Frank Dernie
<Frank.Dernie at btinternet.com>wrote:

> The first time I heard it was in a restaurant where the waiter said I'll be
> back momentarily. It was busy and I thought he was warning us to get our
> choice sorted since he would not be with us very long to take the order ;-)
> cheers,
> FD
>

The first time I asked a restaurant  waiter in England what they had to
drink, he replied "You'll like our orange squash."

Being a young Southern USian kid, I had visions of some kind of vegetable
drink.




>
> On 23 Sep, 2010, at 14:39, Jayanand Govindaraj wrote:
>
> > Frank,
> > Momentarily confused me no end when I first heard it, having been
> > brought up to believe it meant "for a moment" and not "in a moment".
> > We (Neela & I) actually still laugh out loud when we hear the US
> > usage, it sounds so strange to our ears!
> >
> > We call the sweet pancake/crepe "poli" and the savory ones "dosa" or
> > "dosai". Poli is made out of refined flour and usually stuffed with
> > either a mixture of coconut and jaggery, or with a sweet concoction
> > made from chickpea flour. Dosai is made crisp with a fermented batter
> > of rice and lentils and are usually eaten plain or stuffed with a mild
> > potato curry.
> >
> > Cheers
> > Jayanand
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 4:05 PM, Frank Dernie
> > <Frank.Dernie at btinternet.com> wrote:
> >> Much more complicated than that!
> >> Here in England "pancakes" are thin, usually served flat sprinkled with
> lemon and sugar. Crepes are the similar but thinner French version. In
> France there are lots of Creperies and they are served in a multitude of
> ways, with both savoury and sweet fillings, pretty well always folded over
> so the filling is "internal". Nobody in England would call a pancake a 
> crepe
> unless they were being pretentious.
> >> There is no real equivalent in England of what Americans call pancakes,
> though those who will have travelled to the USA may well have tried and
> enjoyed them, as I have, hence know what an American is talking about if he
> says "pancake".
> >> The nearest equivalent to American-style pancakes in the UK would be
> Scotch pancakes, or drop scones. Being married to a Scot I am -very-
> familiar with them, and make them myself! They are much smaller than the
> American-style pancakes I have come across, 3" to 4" diameter, but similar
> in thickness and texture to their american cousin. Scotch pancakes are
> normally served buttered with Golden Syrup or jam.
> >> Few, if any, people in England would refer to Scotch pancakes as simply
> pancakes, since in England a pancake is much larger in diameter and much
> thinner.
> >>
> >>
> >> Another confusing difference between English and American!
> >>
> >> FD
> >>
> >> PS my favourite difference in English and American meaning is in the
> word momentarily, plenty of potential for amusing confusion!
> >>
> >>
> >> On 23 Sep, 2010, at 10:42, Mark Rabiner wrote:
> >>
> >>> There are pancakes and there are thin pancakes.
> >>> The thin pancakes are crapes and the list mentioned.
> >>>
> >>> A typical photo lens called a pancake is about 3/4's of an inch thick.
> >>>
> http://www.jessops.com/ce-images/PRODUCT/PRODUCT_ENLARGED/ASAMSLE205155090.j
> >>> pg
> >>> Or
> >>> http://tinyurl.com/2b65he7
> >>>
> >>> This pancake we just saw seemed to thin to even grab. 1/4 inch. Must
> have
> >>> used more eggs and milk and less flour.
> >>> hence me calling them cr?pes. Or those other things. Which comes from a
> list
> >>> of synonyms for crepes. Which are thin pancakes.
> >>>
> >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cr?pe<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cr%C3%AApe>
> >>> " A cr?pe (English pronunciation: /?kre?p/, French: [k??p]; Breton:
> >>> krampouezhenn) is a type of very thin pancake, usually made from wheat
> >>> flour."
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> " An early example is the (Zeiss) Tessar of 1902. The design has seen a
> >>> resurgence due to the growth of the mirrorless interchangeable lens
> digital
> >>> camera (so-called EVIL camera) market, notably the Micro Four Thirds
> system.
> >>>
> >>> In the 1960s and 1970s the Nikon GN (Guide number) lens was a notable
> >>> example, while in the 1970s and 1980s pancake lenses were used in
> compact
> >>> single lens reflex (SLR) cameras.[1]"
> >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pancake_lens
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --------------------
> >>> Mark William Rabiner
> >>> Photography
> >>> mark at rabinergroup.com
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> From: Peter Cheyne <geordiepete211 at yahoo.co.uk>
> >>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> >>>> Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 18:13:24 +0900
> >>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> >>>> Subject: [Leica]  The world's SMALLEST 35mm lens ever for M... Not!
> >>>>
> >>>> Mark,
> >>>>
> >>>> In English English, we call those thin fried cakes made from batter
> >>>> 'pancakes' . You can have fun trying to flip them in one swift flick
> >>>> of the wrist.   In Japanese English they call the thicker, perhaps US,
> >>>> variety 'hot-cakes'.
> >>>>
> >>>> Maybe these tiny thin pancake lenses should be selling like 'hot
> cakes'.
> >>>>
> >>>> All the best,
> >>>>
> >>>> Peter Cheyne
> >>>>
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Regards,

Sonny
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Natchitoches, Louisiana

USA


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