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Subject: [Leica] SD card malfunction
From: john.nebel at csdco.com (John Nebel)
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 17:59:43 -0600
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Sonny,

Another white paper, somewhat old: http://tinyurl.com/2aqmbh6.

What you say is completely true, the cards are cheap enough for one to be as 
conservative as he wants.  It also true that trash do happen.

Best,

John


On 9/20/2010 4:40 PM, Sonny Carter wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 4:46 PM, John Nebel<john.nebel at csdco.com>  
> wrote:
>
>> Sonny,
>>
>> OK, I'll byte.
>>
>
>
> That's fine, and I'll agree the theoretical life is amazing, and I don't
> doubt that the stuff will hold on to the information.  Probably if you 
> leave
> the sd card in situ in the camera, and pipe the info out through the usb, 
> it
> will have near eternal life.
>
> But what happens in real life, for me at least, is that I shoot for a day,
> maybe 50-100 shots, (sometimes only ten shots for a Friday Flower) pull out
> the card, and stick it into a reader slot.  I take down the pix, and stick
> the card back into my computer.
>
> Remember, for my M8, on an 8 gig card,  I have in excess of 1000 pictures 
> at
> full rez in raw.  I might delete a few here and there, but I don't quit
> until I have the card at about 850, maybe 900 shots.
>
> Now, there's wear and tear on the contacts, the plastic case of the SD card
> is not exactly bulletproof, and I'm loading the card into two different
> computers and a camera.
>
> No white paper can convince me that trash don't happen in these real life
> circumstances.
>
> The cards are cheap enough that I retire them after I fill one.  I don't
> reformat anymore.  I once did, but I got burned twice. Once the card was
> corrupted, and the other time it fell in half. bad glue.   That was two
> times too many.
>
> Thanks for the papers. They are interesting.  Maybe the engineers need to
> also be photographers.
>
>
>
>
>
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/rf67m
>>
>> I think SD cards should be quite reliable, anecdotal evidence aside.  
>> Maybe
>> one should expect an 80 year lifetime?
>>
>> I liked http://www.storagesearch.com/ssdmyths-endurance.html - the math
>> department run amok takes 50+ years to destroy a flash device?
>>
>> John
>>
>> PS
>>
>> I think about this every time I type "wr" in a Cisco switch or router and
>> write something out to the dreaded FLASH.
>>
>> On 9/19/2010 10:52 PM, Sonny Carter wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 11:37 PM, Daniel Tan<taniel.dan at gmail.com>
>>>   wrote:
>>>
>>>   I was under the impression that in some circles, it's standard practice
>>>> to
>>>> format your card each time you clear it (ie, download onto your
>>>> computer).
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Well yes.  but when you overwrite the media  too many times, you run the
>>> risk of leaving digital debris.  I personally would not reformat more 
>>> than
>>> three times.
>>>
>>> I'll probably be proven wrong by someone who can cite technical stuff and
>>> have never had a problem because they are speaking  theoretically.
>>>
>>> I only speak from experience.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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