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Subject: [Leica] Filter System for "M" Landscape Photography
From: jhnichols at lighttube.net (Jim Nichols)
Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2010 11:28:06 -0500
References: <C8A8BEAD.2DC4%mark@rabinergroup.com>

Quite a collection, Mark.  The 4x5 does a great job with details.

Jim Nichols
Tullahoma, TN USA
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mark Rabiner" <mark at rabinergroup.com>
To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2010 2:27 AM
Subject: Re: [Leica] Filter System for "M" Landscape Photography


> As far as the flare situation on a square filter system goes if they fit 
> in
> my Hasselblad bellows it would be too tempting to use them. But in many
> cases it seems to my they have you buying the Cokin shade to put in front 
> of
> the Cokin or whatever holder and they never look too good to me. Or at 
> least
> I like my other shades a lot better.  Come to think of I do have a square
> holder for my modern 4x5 a Cambo Calumet 45NX 4x5 and my only lens is a 
> 210
> Fujinon 5.6. Which  I used for these.
> http://rabinergroup.com/Catagorypages/Halloween2001.html
>
> --------------------
> Mark William Rabiner
> Photography
> mark at rabinergroup.com
>
>
>> From: Bob Adler <rgacpa at yahoo.com>
>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>> Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2010 16:54:58 -0700 (PDT)
>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Filter System for "M" Landscape Photography
>>
>> I'd love to have glass too. My polarizing and a couple of ND filters are
>> glass.
>> Rest are resin and, you're right, they've got small scratches.
>> But weight is a pretty big deal. The pack is heavy enough as it is! And 
>> the
>> scratches don't seem to impact quality IMO. That close to the lens, 
>> unless
>> there's a flare situation, it's a non-issue.
>> But glass and a llama to carry it all would be ideal!!
>>  Bob Adler
>> Palo Alto, CA
>> http://www.rgaphoto.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com>
>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>> Sent: Sat, September 4, 2010 3:55:58 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Filter System for "M" Landscape Photography
>>
>> I love the idea of a square filter system I used to have an old one I'd 
>> use
>> with my early view cameras. Real old. In a wood box they came in. a mired
>> set. From Harrison and Harrison I think. Fron Rochester I think.
>> But glass. Not coated. Not thin.
>> The use of resin filters does not feel right to me. I'd spend the extra
>> bucks on the glass versions I believe are also available. As I scratch
>> things when look at them funny. And am just a glass guy. I even had glass
>> eyeglasses for a while (Zeiss) and they were a lot heavier than the
>> standard.
>>
>> --------------------
>> Mark William Rabiner
>> Photography
>> mark at rabinergroup.com
>>
>>
>>> From: Bob Adler <rgacpa at yahoo.com>
>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>> Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2010 08:19:40 -0700 (PDT)
>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>> Subject: [Leica] Filter System for "M" Landscape Photography
>>>
>>> Moving on from the UV/IR filter battle, I've just finished 
>>> "constructing"
>>> an arrangement for my M that allows me to use the Lee filters that I use 
>>> for
>>> my
>>> other  camera systems. I now can use one set of filters for my Canon, 
>>> Hassy
>>> and
>>> 4x5.
>>>
>>> Lee is now selling (though I'm not sure they're actually producing any 
>>> as no
>>> one
>>> has them) it's RF filter system, which costs about $800 for a starter 
>>> kit
>>> (one
>>> 46mm mount, one polarizing filter, filter holder (holds about 2 filters) 
>>> and
>>> a
>>> couple of graduated neutral density (ND) filters. That was a bit rich 
>>> for me
>>> added with the fact that I would've had to buy a whole new set of 
>>> filters
>>> because of the odd size of the holder (not 4x6 as all my other Lee 
>>> filters
>>> are).
>>>
>>> My solution was to buy 49mm and 55mm Cokin "Z Pro" filter holders; one
>>> fitting
>>> a
>>> 55mm lens (my 21mm M lens) and one fitting a 49mm lens (my 135). These 
>>> are
>>> the
>>> only two "Z Pro" holders that fit my M lens. For the other sizes I 
>>> needed,
>>> 46mm
>>> for my 50 and 39mm for my 35, I bought a regular Cokin system holder for
>>> each.
>>> They make them in those two sizes. I glued those on the other side of 
>>> the
>>> 49mm
>>> holder and, since they would have blocked the hole in my 55mm holder, 
>>> bought
>>> another 49mm holder to glue the other one to. Both obviously glued 
>>> together
>>> on
>>> their non-thread sides.
>>>
>>> At any rate, I can now use all my Lee filters with my M. Total cost was 
>>> about
>>> $50. Though you can't really see what your doing through the viewfinder, 
>>> you
>>> can
>>> guess pretty well and adjust when you view on the LCD screen if you have 
>>> a
>>> digital M. I have used a similar technique in the past (just hand 
>>> holding a
>>> ND
>>> or grad ND filter in front of the lens and guessing) with film and it's
>>> worked
>>> out well, especially the ND filters which don't require any particular
>>> placement.
>>>
>>> Just thought I'd pass this on for anyone daring to put an M on a tripod 
>>> to
>>> take
>>> landscapes :-)
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Bob
>>>
>>> Bob Adler
>>> Palo Alto, CA
>>> http://www.rgaphoto.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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