Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2010/09/02
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Great shot Tina, grain no disturbs at all Saludos Lluis El 02/09/2010, a las 21:40, Tina Manley escribi?: > I agree, Ted! Here's one at 3200 where it was really so dark that I > couldn't see it. I can see more in the photo than I could when I > was there. > > http://www.pbase.com/tinamanley/image/121090460 > That happens a lot, though, with the photos I shoot at 3200. The > 3200 range > is when I miss film. I don't think noise in digital is as effective > as > grain in film, but there are things you can do with it in PS to make > it look > like grain! > > Tina > > On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 3:21 PM, <tedgrant at shaw.ca> wrote: > >> >> Lluis Ripoll Querol showed: >> Subject: Re: [Leica] Candles Light >> >> >> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/Sitges/L1015411w.jpg.html >>>> M8, Elmarit 28/2.8 ASPH, ISO 320 >>>> Thanks for looking, your C&C are welcome <<< >>>> >>> >> Good on you Lluis for shooting it! >> >> Here we have another interesting photograph of... "IF YOU CAN SEE >> IT, YOU >> CAN SHOOT IT!" By candlelight in this situation as a comparison >> with an ISO >> of 320 instead of the 3200 we saw in the street night series by >> nicolas >> vigier : Subject: [Leica] "Walking in Antwerpen at night." >> >> The point of both is.... if you can see a subject you can shoot it! >> Or at >> least have a go at it and capture a frame you wouldn't have if you >> stuck to >> the "I don't want any grain group." Besides in many cases the >> concern about >> grain is only in the eyes of maybe one viewer. >> >> 0r hundreds of others might say... "WOW! Neat shot!" commenting on >> the >> content, and light levels where the photos were taken and they find >> them >> interesting. >> >> Here we have an example of ISO 320, hardly pushed image at all. >> Then we >> jump to 3200 and both are quite excellent given the light >> conditions. I've >> never hesitated pushing the ASA of film, colour or B&W, or digital >> if that >> were the only way I could capture the real life look of the >> situation. And >> yes the colour balance might go a tad wild at times, but in most >> cases it >> was accepted as "WOW! How did you do that without lighting the >> scene?" >> Digital is generally a piece of cake if you leave the camera on >> AUTO WB! >> >> "No problem, I never paid any attention to the rules and >> regulations and >> shot it!" Where as a techie type would probably be wringing their >> hands and >> trying all kinds of "colour balancing filters" and test shots to >> the extent >> that by the time they finish all that stuff, my film was being >> processed. >> :-) >> >> Sure I used tungsten film when that was the key lighting but that's >> just >> common sense shooting and anyone would do the same thing. >> >> But then I and many of the accredited photographers had no problem >> at the >> 1988 Winter Olympics in Calgary with "Kodachrome 200" being pushed >> to ASA >> 500! Like WOW!!! After the KODAK technical people told us to shoot >> it at ASA >> 500 and they processed it accordingly. Incredible results like you >> wouldn't >> believe! Now film at these games is supplied free to accredited >> shooters as >> well as the processing. >> >> However? When the games were over and I sent 10 rolls of pushed >> Kodachrome >> to KODAK Canada in Toronto for processing, the processing charge >> was $50.00 >> per roll! OUCH! However I happened to be shooting for a very cool >> client >> and they just shrugged their shoulders and said..."The end result >> is the >> most important thing, so what's $500 bucks for processing?" I might >> say it >> was a client I always enjoyed assignments with. :-) >> >> But pushing ISO is no big deal as long as you get the results and an >> acceptable image quality you can be happy with. So the next time >> yer in >> squeaky light don't hesitate "JUST DO IT AND BE PLEASANTLY >> SURPRISED!" :-) I >> mean ater all you've seen the results in the past few days of 320 >> and 3200. >> It's no big deal, shoot from the gut and not the worrisome brain! ;-) >> >> cheers, >> Dr. ted >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> > > > -- > Tina Manley, ASMP > www.tinamanley.com > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information