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Subject: [Leica] Searching -- Critiquing!
From: benedenia at gmail.com (Marty Deveney)
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2010 06:09:40 -0700
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This is why we missed him so much when he wasn't here.  Thanks Ted,
and thanks for coming back.

Marty

On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 6:05 AM, Tina Manley <images at comporium.net> wrote:
> LUG -
>
> Isn't Ted amazing? ?He does the same thorough critic with each of the
> hundreds of photos in the Leica seminars. ?I am in awe and have no idea how
> he does it. ?I know whether I like a photo or not immediately, but I have 
> no
> idea why. ?Ted does and gives helpful comments on how to improve. ?He's the
> best photography teacher I know!!!
>
> Tina
>
> On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 12:02 AM, <tedgrant at shaw.ca> wrote:
>
>> Gene did say:
>>
>>> This is what I wanted and as long as I get some pointers on how to 
>>> improve
>>>> my photos, I will never take it personally, as I do want to learn. ?I
>>>> keep
>>>> waiting for a comment from Dr. Ted, but so far, I guess he either likes
>>>> my
>>>> stuff or has not bothered to look. ?Or, I'm too terrible for him to
>>>> narrow
>>>> it down. ?;-) ?Either way it is great to have him back.<,
>>>>
>>>
>> Thank you Gene for the welcome back.
>>
>> However I did not pass your picture posting on purpose as I can only be
>> here
>> so much time each day, then I'm ordered to leave! :-) :-( Both good and
>> bad.
>> However mon ami I have and am looking as I comment! :-)
>>
>> WINTER BARN #2:
>> No question the best by far! "SHOOTING FROM THE SHADOW SIDE!" Because of
>> the trees and the tree shadow mid foreground! Quite obvious which is the
>> better merely by clicking back and
>> forth for comparison.
>>
>> Number 2 without question is "ART" and could very easily be framed and 
>> hung
>> in a family room or in the home of an urban resident.
>>
>> Julia's Eyes:
>> I like this but would prefer it even more so if we could see a smidgen 
>> more
>> of her eyes. I suppose that comes from when I photograph people I always
>> try
>> not to cut through the eyes.
>>
>> If the subject is wearing eye glasses, no part of the frames should ever
>> cut
>> through the eye or eyes! Still an interesting photo, however next time try
>> for a clean eye line. It does make a major difference because we humans
>> learn so much about others from the subject's eyes. We know when they are
>> lying, ill, emotional and it goes on!
>>
>> Tetons:
>> Interesting, however the really black foreground or lower portion of the
>> frame I find disturbing. I think more so because I can't tell what it
>> is and it doesn't seem to add anything? I have just looked again and if
>> anything I think maybe a tad brighter might help as I think it's forest?
>> maybe a lake? tucked in there giving some reflection in the mid third left
>> in the frame? It doesn't fall into one of your better pictures, probably
>> more into a "snap shot category from the car as you were driving along
>> the highway and the scenery looked kind of cool. You stopped and went...
>> "CLICK!" It looked better to the eye than in a photograph.
>> Trust me it happens to all of us!
>>
>> Thistle:
>> Not much to say here other than when you have "spines" or pointy things
>> sticking out they shouldn't be cut off by the edge frame as you've done
>> here. They should come from the seed pod and end clean and clear from the
>> edge of the frame. How much? It doesn't matter as long as it helps create
>> an
>> interesting composition. If you chop them off it spoils the composition.
>>
>> Wild Flower:
>> OK this works as a simple clean composition of a wild flower, dark back
>> ground helps make it stand out stronger and sharper. If one is into 
>> hanging
>> wild flower photos in the family room it could fall into that category. It
>> falls into the "nice picture" range and not likely anyone is going to be
>> jumping off their chairs over it!
>>
>> Yellowstone Swan:
>> Even though the swan is clean and white and catches the eye and it should
>> be
>> the smack you in the eye main point of focus..... IT ISN'T! ! ?That great
>> big root system on the left grabs your attention and holds your eyes 
>> there,
>> rather than staying with the ?"Yellowstone Swan!" That is after all the
>> title of the photograph. Right?
>>
>> How to correct this if the swan is considered the main point of focus?
>>
>> That's a toughie without being there, but I think probably wait the few
>> minutes until the swan is coming out from behind the root system and clean
>> of the roots all together. Maybe just make it into a reflection in the
>> water
>> and the real bird with green weeds filling the background! Or something of
>> that nature unless some other smaller size roots are about and can be
>> balanced as a secondary part of the photograph.
>>
>> OR? Shoot the swan sooner before it got so close to the roots? In other
>> words with a bigger gap between bird and roots. Because right now it 
>> almost
>> looks like the swan will crash into the roots? maybe?
>>
>> OK I hope this helps as I'm ordered out of here. good night. Talk later.
>> cheers,
>> Dr. ted
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>
>
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