Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2010/08/22

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Subject: [Leica] new 75mm M lens
From: mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner)
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 02:49:58 -0400

Can't think of a phrase or nuance on your post that I disagree with you on
here Henning.
What I disagree with tis he widely used blurring which often happens here on
the LUG  between major dissimilar issues:
I "replaced" my Summilux with a Nokton or "Zeiss" CV whatever it is.
Or other rhetoric or turns of phrase. Things put in the same group which
don't belong there.
"I cant decide between a Porsche and a pair of roller skates." It doesn't
make the roller skates look better. Or Porsche look worse. Its just
gibberish.
- may as well talk about the price of architecture on the dance floor.

--------------------
Mark William Rabiner
Photography
mark at rabinergroup.com


> From: "Henning J. Wulff" <henningw at archiphoto.com>
> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 23:23:18 -0700
> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Subject: Re: [Leica] new 75mm M lens
> 
> Whatever you may think of it, Mark, the new CV lens does have a lot
> in common with the 75/1.4. No, it is not as fast, and that has a
> considerable amount to do with the price, as well as the quality of
> the mechanics etc, But the look of the CV lens is that of an older
> lens; more like that of a 50's lens. The Summilux is a more modern
> creation and has more contrast and flare resistance that that
> implies, but the CV lens can certainly hold it's own against any 50's
> or 60's lens, and has overall better performance than almost any of
> those.
> 
> If I didn't have the 75 Summilux, I couldn't think of a better
> portrait lens right now than the 75 CV. It has a central sharpness
> (contrast, resolution, whatever) that the old 90 Summicron does not
> have wide open, and it once again is excellent value. It is not
> competing against the 75 Summicron, and it is well off that standard
> in pure technical performance, but it certainly is a significant
> offering. Leica is not selling these sort of lenses anymore, but
> there are lots of people looking for them. I think it's a good
> direction for Cosina to take.
> 
> In those areas where Cosina compete directly with Leica, like the
> 28/2, they can only win on price. That lens is definitely a step down
> from Leica's, and has no other redeeming features. So making a 75
> that fills the void left by the 75 Summilux (to a significant extent)
> is a smart choice. The Summilux is a legend, and in many ways a much
> more useful lens than the f/1 Noctilux, but it will not be made
> again. It's value will only increase as it's worth is realized.
> Therefore Cosina's offering brings some of those qualities within a
> much wider market's range without diluting the Summilux's standing.
> 
> 
> 
> At 1:22 AM -0400 8/23/10, Mark Rabiner wrote:
>> I'm just very fond of the Leica company for some odd reason I don't know
>> why. It's just a quirk of mine. I think when one uses the word "best" it
>> when they are looking for the best. The "best lens" M mount new not used
>> lens for 800 bucks might be the Cosina 35mm 1.2 whatever.
>> But a Summilux 1.4 from Leica is hand made from real nice glass which cost
>> some real money and cost 5 grand and represents the latest Leica cutting
>> edge design.
>> If best was what I was after I'd same my lunch money and get the Summilux.
>> If "interesting, not so expensive by 6.3 times and just a tad faster I'd 
>> buy
>> the Cosina monster. But I'd not call it "the best lens" that's ridiculous
>> when there is an option from Leica which is gorgeous optical perfection 
>> with
>> nothing spared.
>> Leica gives you the option of really getting "the best". That's what
>> interests me about it. There are such great photo companies out there.
>> Highly competitive. Canon. Nikon. Cosina. Amazing stuff. Amazing but not
>> "the best".
>> I hope I'm not boring Nathan.
>> 
>> --------------------
>> Mark William Rabiner
>> Photography
>> mark at rabinergroup.com
>> 
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