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Subject: [Leica] Digital point and shoot
From: gwpics at me.com (Gerry Walden)
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 20:40:39 +0100
References: <C8793E1A.126B%mark@rabinergroup.com> <1765F230-F4A1-450C-A39C-3D7FE8A8CF65@frozenlight.eu> <4C546543.8060105@panix.com>

Following a couple of tests, I have purchased a Canon G11 which has shown it 
can give very good results for the price when I am shooting raw with it.

Thanks for all the suggestions,

Gerry

Gerry Walden LRPS
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On 31 Jul 2010, at 19:02, Rei Shinozuka wrote:

> i  think mark reiterates a point that is often overlooked in the press, 
> which is that squares (square millimeters) matter.
> 
> as an example, the DLUX4 is a neat little camera, with a wide and fast 
> lens, but for image quality, a beat-up DSLR like a canon 20D, 5 years 
> older and 2 megapixels fewer, is simply superior.  and there's a world of 
> difference between the DLUX4 and the M9.
> 
> it's a different paradigm than the analog days, where under the right 
> circumstances a point and shoot like a Contax T3 could give a Leica M6 a 
> run for the money and produce slides and negs hard to distinguish.  maybe 
> u4/3 bridges that gap, i don't know, i haven't shot them.  perhaps the X1 
> will do the job.
> 
> i don't think mark is so much a naysayer, as the voice in the wilderness 
> who points out  that in the digital world today, there's a performance gap 
> between system cameras and P&Ss.  he attributes much of this to sensor 
> size differences.  i tend to agree with him.
> 
> -rei
> 
> 
> On 07/31/2010 11:57 AM, Nathan Wajsman wrote:
>> You're getting rather tiresome, Mark.
>> 
>> Nathan Wajsman
>> Alicante, Spain
>> http://www.frozenlight.eu
>> http://www.greatpix.eu
>> http://www.nathanfoto.com
>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws
>> Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog
>> 
>> YNWA
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jul 31, 2010, at 8:42 AM, Mark Rabiner wrote:
>> 
>>   
>>> A normal lens for a G11 would be a 9.5mm lens!! You sure you want to 
>>> mention
>>> this toy in the same sentence paragraph or page as a Leica M9 or m8?
>>> 
>>> Its like saying you cant afford an M6 so you are buying a Minox IIIs
>>> (8x11mm format)
>>> Does not compute. Apples and oranges!!!
>>> Nobody ever used a minox spy camrea for the kind of photography that an 
>>> M6
>>> could do.
>>> Its not that much different as digital sensors go compared to film.
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Mark William Rabiner
>>> mark at rabinergroup.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>>     
>>>> From: Gerry Walden<gwpics at me.com>
>>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group<lug at leica-users.org>
>>>> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 21:05:38 +0100
>>>> To: Leica Users Group<lug at leica-users.org>
>>>> Subject: [Leica] Digital point and shoot
>>>> 
>>>> I have got to the stage where I want an alternative to my Nikon DSLR 
>>>> gear that
>>>> is more like the M6 I used to know and love. The reality is that I want 
>>>> an M8
>>>> or M9 but simply cannot afford more than about ?400 ($600) and have been
>>>> looking at the Canon G11. Are there any viable alternatives that shoot 
>>>> RAW out
>>>> there, with personal recommendations?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> 
>>>> Gerry
>>>> 
>>>> Gerry Walden LRPS
>>>> +44 (0)23 8046 3076 (Office)
>>>> +44 (0)797 287 7932 (Mobile)
>>>> Web: www.gwpics.com
>>>> Blog: www.gerrywalden.wordpress.com
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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