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Subject: [Leica] Received M8 & lenses repaired/adjusted by Solms
From: simon.apekop at gmail.com (simon jessurun)
Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 08:32:53 +0200
References: <3EFE7E14-75CA-460B-8DFE-4B5789C1CD2D@yahoo.co.uk>

I agree with Nathan.
Simon

On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 4:11 PM, Peter Cheyne <geordiepete211 op 
yahoo.co.uk>wrote:

>  Some weeks back, I sent in my M8 to have the sensor replaced.  The price
> was reasonable at 782 Euros.  I paid an extra 100 Euros to have the LCD
> window replace because of an annoying scratch.  Now I have that LCD covered
> with a protector screen.  Solms Customer Services also told me a few weeks
> ago that I could send in a couple of lenses that I wanted adjusting to work
> better with my M8 ad have that done at no extra cost.  The thing is, I was
> charged 313 Euro for adjustment of each lens anyway.  Actually, Ms Frankl
> told me it would be free. Then I was invoiced for 413 Euros per lens.  I
> complained to Ms Frankl, who then got the price reduced by 100 Euros, but
> said she could not reduce more because she had made a mistake in what she
> had previously said about the adjustment being a free service in this case.
>  OK, I accepted that, feeling confident that my lenses would be returned
> working as perfectly as possible with my M8.
>
> Having tested the two adjusted lenses on my M8, I can't say that it was
> worth the money.  In fact the returned 90 Tele-Elmar is performing worse
> than before.  I did a tape-measure focus test, as suggested by other
> LUGgers, with the camera on a tripod, and focused each lens at 1m, 2m, and
> 3m distances.  The tabbed 50 'Cron is acceptable, I suppose, although it is
> back-focusing at each distance and it becomes a problem wide-open at 3m and
> further.  I can live with that, but I was expecting better.  The 
> performance
> of the 90 Tele-Elmar is now very much unacceptable.  It is front focusing 
> at
> all distances.  At 1m it scrapes in as usable, at the very back of the 
> range
> of acceptable sharpness.  At 2m the point I focused on by rangefinder  is
> 25cm behind where the focus actually hit.  At 3m it is a joke,
> front-focusing by about 40cm.  My 135 lenses perform better than this.
>
> I fixed (bodged) the focus on an old Canon 135/3.5 screw mount to work
> better than the Leica techs managed with my 90/2.8.  The Canon was so OOF
> with my M8 that I unscrewed the front of the lens, fitted a rubber plumbing
> 'O'-ring to work as a makeshift shim, and the focus was spot on.  I'm
> surprised that the Leica techs returned my 90/28 to me in such poor 
> focusing
> shape.  I've sent an e-mail off to Solms with my test photos, saying that I
> would like their technicians opinion on the photos, and for them to try
> again with my 90mm lens.
>
> Here is a link to the test photos:
>
> 50 'Cron:
> http://www.flickr.com/search/?w=73557746%40N00&q=50+%27Cron+test&m=text
>
> 90 Tele-Elmar:
> http://www.flickr.com/search/?w=73557746%40N00&q=90+Tele-Elmar+test&m=text
>
> Then just for comparison, here is my old 90 'Cron, which Solms did not
> adjust, and is working reasonably well:
> http://www.flickr.com/search/?w=73557746%40N00&q=90+Tele-Elmar+test&m=text
>
> I think the best performer was the 135/2.8 (goggles):
> http://www.flickr.com/search/?w=73557746%40N00&q=135+goggles&m=text
>
> Thanks for taking a look.  I'd appreciate any comments on the results,
> especially if you agree or disagree with me that the 90 Tele-Elmar is not
> performing like a lens that I just got back today from being adjusted in
> Solms.
>
> Peter Cheyne
>
>
>
>
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