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Subject: [Leica] Received M8 & lenses repaired/adjusted by Solms
From: grduprey at mchsi.com (grduprey at mchsi.com)
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 10:09:34 -0500 (CDT)

Peter,

I would call them and let them know that your lenses are worse now than when 
you sent them in and ask to have them correctly adjusted.

Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Cheyne" <geordiepete211 at yahoo.co.uk>
To: lug at leica-users.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 9:11:18 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: [Leica]  Received M8 & lenses repaired/adjusted by Solms

  Some weeks back, I sent in my M8 to have the sensor replaced.  The  
price was reasonable at 782 Euros.  I paid an extra 100 Euros to have  
the LCD window replace because of an annoying scratch.  Now I have  
that LCD covered with a protector screen.  Solms Customer Services  
also told me a few weeks ago that I could send in a couple of lenses  
that I wanted adjusting to work better with my M8 ad have that done at  
no extra cost.  The thing is, I was charged 313 Euro for adjustment of  
each lens anyway.  Actually, Ms Frankl told me it would be free. Then  
I was invoiced for 413 Euros per lens.  I complained to Ms Frankl, who  
then got the price reduced by 100 Euros, but said she could not reduce  
more because she had made a mistake in what she had previously said  
about the adjustment being a free service in this case.  OK, I  
accepted that, feeling confident that my lenses would be returned  
working as perfectly as possible with my M8.

Having tested the two adjusted lenses on my M8, I can't say that it  
was worth the money.  In fact the returned 90 Tele-Elmar is performing  
worse than before.  I did a tape-measure focus test, as suggested by  
other LUGgers, with the camera on a tripod, and focused each lens at  
1m, 2m, and 3m distances.  The tabbed 50 'Cron is acceptable, I  
suppose, although it is back-focusing at each distance and it becomes  
a problem wide-open at 3m and further.  I can live with that, but I  
was expecting better.  The performance of the 90 Tele-Elmar is now  
very much unacceptable.  It is front focusing at all distances.  At 1m  
it scrapes in as usable, at the very back of the range of acceptable  
sharpness.  At 2m the point I focused on by rangefinder  is 25cm  
behind where the focus actually hit.  At 3m it is a joke, front- 
focusing by about 40cm.  My 135 lenses perform better than this.

I fixed (bodged) the focus on an old Canon 135/3.5 screw mount to work  
better than the Leica techs managed with my 90/2.8.  The Canon was so  
OOF with my M8 that I unscrewed the front of the lens, fitted a rubber  
plumbing 'O'-ring to work as a makeshift shim, and the focus was spot  
on.  I'm surprised that the Leica techs returned my 90/28 to me in  
such poor focusing shape.  I've sent an e-mail off to Solms with my  
test photos, saying that I would like their technicians opinion on the  
photos, and for them to try again with my 90mm lens.

Here is a link to the test photos:

50 'Cron:
http://www.flickr.com/search/?w=73557746%40N00&q=50+%27Cron+test&m=text

90 Tele-Elmar:
http://www.flickr.com/search/?w=73557746%40N00&q=90+Tele-Elmar+test&m=text

Then just for comparison, here is my old 90 'Cron, which Solms did not  
adjust, and is working reasonably well:
http://www.flickr.com/search/?w=73557746%40N00&q=90+Tele-Elmar+test&m=text

I think the best performer was the 135/2.8 (goggles):
http://www.flickr.com/search/?w=73557746%40N00&q=135+goggles&m=text

Thanks for taking a look.  I'd appreciate any comments on the results,  
especially if you agree or disagree with me that the 90 Tele-Elmar is  
not performing like a lens that I just got back today from being  
adjusted in Solms.

Peter Cheyne





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