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Subject: [Leica] Sony cleans up; takes no prisoners.
From: richard at imagecraft.com (Richard Man)
Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 14:32:04 -0700
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The wide is unfortunately, an Achilles Heel for the M8. 21 is a decent
28FOV, not bad, but not ultra wide. The 7-14 is a decent 14-28 FOV, which is
quite nice.

I have to say that I like the 21 FOV a lot, but could not handle the 15 and
18. Although that was a number of years ago. May be I should give them
another try....

On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 2:07 PM, Bob Adler <rgacpa at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Hi Nathan,
> I guess I am just dense, but why would the M8/9 not be as good a choice?
> Let's say with a 21 and a 35 in addition to the 45(50?) and 90?
> I think I'm missing something...
> Thanks,
> Bob
>  Bob Adler
> Palo Alto, CA
> http://www.rgaphoto.com
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Nathan Wajsman <photo at frozenlight.eu>
> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Sent: Wed, May 26, 2010 2:02:08 PM
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Sony cleans up; takes no prisoners.
>
> Meanwhile, I have taken around 250 pictures during this week's visit to
> Boston (so far) with my dumb GF-1 and I love the results, and so do other
> people. I have used the 20mm pancake the most, followed by the newly
> acquired 7-14 (excellent!!!) but the 45mm and the 90mm Elmarit with adapter
> have also seen use.
>
> And I can walk around all day with no pain anywhere.
>
> Sony=Playstation
>
> Nathan
>
> On 26 May, 2010, at 16:54 , Mark Rabiner wrote:
>
> > http://a.img-dpreview.com/news/1005/sonysensor/sensor_compare.jpg
> > Double layer in effect couplets instead of in effect single lens eyewear
> in
> > front of each pixel site makes for Sony being able to make the smallest
> > pixel sights yet and still do well with image quality. The way it
> looks....
> > Meanwhile it doest waste its time in sub miniature digital formats but
> comes
> > out with its tiny NEX cameras with 1.5 crop like the Leica X1 instead of
> the
> > dumb 2x crop cameras which capture the hearts and minds of the bulk of
> the
> > LUG.
> > It's very cool and cute  and flat 16mm pancake 2.8 becomes a very capable
> > 24mm lens for these NEX cameras. My advanced math skills tells me that
> lens
> > would be a 32mm if  they were talking about the crazy useless 2x crop
> > cameras.
> > That said they could apply this two layer technology to these smaller
> > formats and perhaps do ok. Next year. Nobody knows anything about it yet.
> > But in Pict form it looks good so far.
> > I'm very big on Sony.
> >
> > The 16mm  pancake looks great but this NEX series is being mainly
> presented
> > with larger front heavy looking zoom glass in front and with much talk
> about
> > its video capabilities to justify it. Very smart marketing and camera
> design
> > as far as I go. Real stocking stuffers . I'm ready for one.
> >
> > http://www.dpreview.com/previews/sonynex5/
> > Mirrorless like the Leica  Dlux series and the bulk of the cameras being
> > used today which are not DSLR's. Though there is cross over.
> >
> > We need such an option with M mount
> >
> > And give me two layers in front of my sensor to make it quite able to
> deal
> > with non retrofocal glass designs.
> >
> > [Rabs]
> > Mark William Rabiner
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
>
> Nathan Wajsman
> Alicante, Spain
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In reply to: Message from mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner) ([Leica] Sony cleans up; takes no prisoners.)
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