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Subject: [Leica] A 1976 AP photo of Justice J.P. Stevens
From: passaro.vince at gmail.com (Vince Passaro)
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 01:47:48 -0400
References: <r2l19b6d42d1004152039oc8b46606v93ede9edd950060a@mail.gmail.com> <C6A61E41-7AE2-4AAB-B566-466372271B99@charter.net> <60B21ED0-F859-4C3B-9762-7F804E785D14@frozenlight.eu> <B584370A-C434-4990-B13B-17944C026DF6@charter.net>

What flare in which corner?

Do you guys know how AP photographs worked? They came in over the wire and
were recomposed at the paper; that print  then is kept in a library (at some
papers) until being digitized, probably in like 1997, badly; you're so far
from whatever the original was to discuss its sharpness is silly. If the
image came last week from AP directly that too is how it would have
survived; it's only marginally possible that anyone worked with the original
print again after it went out over the wires in 1976. But I suspect this was
in the Times' library and then digitized because I believe AP's photo
library was sold to Bettman or Getty at some point so if the image had been
bought last week it wouldn't have said "AP" I don't think. I could be wrong
on that front however.

In any case you ain't looking at it like human bein' . A thousand more
technically correct headshots wouldn't reveal the man in quite this way, or
at all, and I happened to look at a lot of them in the wake of becoming
interested in this photograph.  He was superficially a dull man and not easy
to "find" but this picture does -- in part by getting (literally) underneath
him. It's beautifully composed.

Nathan I figured out the "flare" you indicated. If that were flare it would
mean the trash can was on fire. It's not flare; it's damage to the print.
The light's coming fron entirely the other direction.

You guys better not go to the HCB show at MoMA. A lot of his pictures aren't
so sharp either.




On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 1:17 AM, slobodan Dimitrov
<s.dimitrov at charter.net>wrote:

> It's from the very worst period in photography, when the 35mm SLR
> manufactures jammed the public with their trash.
> S.d.
>
>
> On Apr 15, 2010, at 10:08 PM, Nathan Wajsman wrote:
>
> > That was my reaction to it as well. Unsharp, lots of flare in the corner.
> >
> > Nathan
> >
> > Nathan Wajsman
> > Alicante, Spain
> > http://www.frozenlight.eu
> > http://www.greatpix.eu
> > http://www.nathanfoto.com
> >
> > Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0
> > PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws
> > Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Apr 16, 2010, at 6:57 AM, slobodan Dimitrov wrote:
> >
> >> You're kidding, right?
> >> It's a hideous image!
> >> S.d.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Apr 15, 2010, at 8:39 PM, Vince Passaro wrote:
> >>
> >>> This picture ran on the front page of the New York Times the day after
> >>> Stevens announced his resignation.  They still have it on the lens
> blog.
> >>> It's an uncredited AP photo. I like it a lot, I think it's a great
> >>> photograph. I wonder what others think, and, specifically, what size
> lens
> >>> people think it was taken with. I'm thinking 35mm or even 28mm and
> cropped
> >>> but I don't know nothin'.
> >>>
> >>> People's reactions would be of great interest to me.
> >>>
> >>> Here's the url:
> >>>
> http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2010/04/09/us/20100409-stevens-slideshow_index.html?ref=politics
> >>>
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