[Leica] widest lens used?

[passaro.vince at gmail.com (Vince Passaro)]

Rabs, I said "BY ALL REPORTS" competitive since I have no idea whether it's
competitive or not; just telling you about the *reviews* out there. Gandy
for one but ok he has an interest in the matter. But -- since you've already
mentioned the technically knowledgeable though aesthetically wanting, often
goofy, and I suspect on other fronts dumbass closet right wing, Ken Rockwell
, I offer first this:

*<<This Voigtl?nder 21mm lens is the best 21mm lens ever made for Leica
cameras, regardless of price....This lens is tiny, and works at least as
well optically as anything ever sold by Leica.....It is as sharp, and
sometimes sharper, than the $4,300 Leica 21mm f/2.8
ASPH<http://www.kenrockwell.com/leica/21mm-f28-asph.htm>to which I
compared it directly.
*

*How can this be? Probably because this Voigtl?nder lens is only f/4, which
is far easier to design and manufacture than trying to push things with the
modern f/2.8 ASPH lens from Leica, which has to be much bigger and much more
expensive just to retain the same optical quality. It costs a lot in many
ways to add just one stop of lens speed. *

*Now before you Leica boys
<http://www.kenrockwell.com/leica/leica-man.htm>have heart attacks (or
simply stop reading), go do as I did and get one of
each of these lenses in your hot little hands at the same time and go shoot
them head-to-head, with a scientifically valid target, like the view at
infinity from atop a mountain on a very clear day. Look at the film
yourself.*

* If you do your tests correctly, which is to vary only one aspect (the
lens) and nothing else, you'll see what I did: this Voigtl?nder lens is as
good as the Leica lens, and sharper in the center at larger apertures!>>>*

So go argue with that doofus. I'm only a: quoting, and b: saying it works
real good.

He mentions by the way the CV 21/4 is quite bad with the M9 because the rear
pokes out too far and is too close to the sensor.

See I'm innocent sir, on account of I never did have no other 21mm lens to
work with causa they was gonna git me one a them Leikers but then my daddy
dahd and my momma she had to go work inna fields. She worked hard, too hard,
she worked so hard she broke all up inside and weren't never the same and my
brother Ray run off with the Scientologiests so I couildn't git no Leikers
like they said I could before. I been makin' do and hardly that sir to tell
you the lord's honest truth. A CV here, a old used Elmar there. Just makin'
do. And I can't say what it feels like when I see that look in my chirruns'
eyes, Where's the new Leiker daddy? Did it come today daddy? And a course I
got to say no it didn't. It did not, no sir. Nothin' came today and ain't
nothin' gonna come tomorrow neither.

VP


On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 9:43 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> 
wrote:

> > Yeah, Doug sometimes gets a little wacky out there with a 180mm. Nothing
> > wider than that for him.
> >
> > I'm surprised no one (I've caught -- maybe I missed one) has mentioned
> the
> > CV 21/4. By all reports it's better than their 12, 15, and 18mm lenses by
> a
> > good margin and competitive with the Leicas.
>
>
> How is a very nice lens made in Japan for $369  competitive with a  hand
> made lens from Solms  with rare and exotic glass choices from the best lens
> company in the world, Leica selling for $4,395 or perhaps you were
> referring
> to the f1.4  $6,495 new at Adorama?  ($369 for the  lens hood and I'm not
> kidding)
> They're " competitive " becaue if you had million dollars you'd have
>  choice
> of buying either or any of those lenes. Maybe at the same camera store and
> with the same parking spot.
> They're    "competitive " because with any of these lenes when you take a
> picture of your Aunt Martha you look at it and go "Look there's my Aunt
> Martha!".
> How do I know you have an Aunt Martha?
> ...!?!?
>
>
>
>
> [Rabs]
> Mark William Rabiner
>
>
>
>
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