Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2010/03/25
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]How were Marshall's M4s modified by the way? On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 10:10 PM, Vince Passaro <passaro.vince at gmail.com>wrote: > All the preceding was in reaction to that very photo just mentioned, the > Janis Joplin with pint of Southern Comfort -- who I was just listening to > last night and was so moved by I actually went on to Facebook which I never > do anymore and put up a remark about how unearthly and miraculous her > singing was. And today here she is in that great photograph, so young, so > completely young. To hear her sing you'd think she was a million years old, > or more -- as old as the planets. > > On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 10:05 PM, Vince Passaro <passaro.vince at > gmail.com>wrote: > >> Looking at all the Jim Marshall pics on the Times site and on The Online >> Photographer (the two by the way are running reversed versions of the >> Miles >> Davis pic and something tells me it's the Times, not the OP, that's got it >> wrong) I started thinking about great portrait photography; of course I >> thought of it in terms of how I cannot do it; and it struck me that what I >> admire so much about it and what makes it so hard for me to do is that the >> space between the camera and the subject is clear; that great portraitists >> are interested in what's there whereas my training, as a writer, is to be >> interested in how I'm reacting to what's there, seeing it, constituting it >> (or re-constituting it) in language. I can meet people, exchange >> pleasantries, and be (essentially in secret) watching them, assessing >> them, >> memorizing them, so that I can go home and render them not as they ARE or >> even remarkably closely to how THEY APPEAR TO BE but rather as I have seen >> them and reshaped them. I do this by writing words down to evoke certain >> images and certain kinds of understandings. But it's an exceedingly >> low-res >> portrait: the writer leaves room for the reader to fill in with his or her >> own imaginative vision so that the reader is bonded to the text. When I >> go >> to take a picture of someone I am too aware of myself there with the >> camera; >> I feel clumsy or embarrassed or pushy or trivial or comical or SOMETHING >> that's important to me: and I feel as if I should be DOING something to >> make >> that person become that person, whereas of course what I need to do is be >> invisible. But how I feel about me in the scene still matters. So the >> space >> is never clear, the light is obscured, because in the end all the great >> portraitists from Paul Strand or Walker Evans or even that French Cote >> d'Azure guy who's always taking slightly out of focus pictures of flappers >> climbing on summer rocks -- what was his name? -- 1920s... or Man Ray for >> that matter, so stylized: they all have a style, certainly, but the space >> between the lens and the subject is left clear of opinion as it were. Guys >> like Irving Penn and Avedon --- LARTIGUE is the French dude's name, it >> just >> came back to me -- Penn and Avedon can be egomaniacs and probably were but >> not while the camera was at their eye. >> >> But since I cannot do it my speculations on what it requires could be >> entirely wrong. Only practice confirms truth, really. >> >> On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 9:15 PM, EPL <manolito at videotron.ca> wrote: >> >>> In 1999, Jim Marshall and I corresponded a little and then talked by >>> phone a >>> few times about Leica gear. Jim -- like me -- was a certified gearhead. >>> Yes, >>> he preferred the M4 (his were modified) above all other Ms. >>> >>> But more important: he took some of my favourite photos. Janis Joplin >>> with >>> the Southern Comfort mickey is one. >>> >>> Lucky man, he was, at a time when his nation was in turmoil, he saw the >>> best >>> of it. >>> >>> Emanuel >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >> >> >