Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2010/03/22
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Try ACR 5.6... Bob Adler Palo Alto, CA http://www.rgaphoto.com ________________________________ From: Vince Passaro <passaro.vince at gmail.com> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> Sent: Mon, March 22, 2010 10:12:40 PM Subject: [Leica] Photoshop Altamont -- some questions for the wisdom of the LUG. Well. I fooled around until far far too late an hour last night and learned some things, one of which is CS4 can't open G1 raw files. Further, when I opened a few G1 jpegs in CS4 Camera Raw and messed around with them -- I even taught myself how to use lasso tool, how to smooth out my terrible efforts with lasso tool, and reduce the glare on a particular portion of my photo that had light bouncing off some glass -- these files saved as anywhere from 25MB to 60 (!!!) MB in size. To mount them on the lug gallery I had to save for web, which made them into 5MB tiff files but also stripped away some layers of the work I'd done and rendered what had been clear and deep now noisy and fake looking. But I posted them anyway for your helpful comments and instructions. http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/toast+eatin_+bog+man/Photoshop+Altamont/. Two 'Photoshopped" files and one prior for comparison. Meanwhile, I went looking for why CS4 could nae open me wee G1 raw files, and so found an Adobe update/patch to download (Camera Raw 5.2, equiv to whats in the LR 2.2 beta I believe), downloaded it, but also read the following asterisk which I wonder if one of you might take a stab at explaining to me. It appears to indicate that the D-Lux-4 and various Panasonic models (two of which I own, happy me) have a proprietary raw program which Adobe cannot really deal with yet so they advise one not, for now. If one does, files will be three times the size of other converted raw files... because of a tripling of the mosaicing or demosaicing or however it works. Any comments on this wil be MOST helpful. Here's the text: **With the release of Camera Raw 5.2 (and upcoming release of Adobe Photoshop? Lightroom? 2.2), there is an important exception in DNG file handling for the Panasonic DMC-LX3, Panasonic DMC-FX150, Panasonic DMC-FZ28, Panasonic DMC-G1, and Leica D-LUX 4. For those who choose to convert these native, proprietary files to the DNG file format, a linear DNG format is the only conversion option available at this time. A linear DNG file has gone through a demosaic process that converts a single mosaic layer of red, green, and blue channel information into three distinct layers, one for each channel. The resulting linear DNG file is approximately three times the size of a mosaic DNG file or the original proprietary file format. This exception is a temporary solution to help ensure that Panasonic's and Leica's intended image rendering from their proprietary raw file format is applied to an image when converted DNG files are viewed in third-party software titles. The same image-rendering process is applied automatically in Camera Raw 5.2 and Photoshop Lightroom 2.2 when viewing the original proprietary raw file format. In a future release, Adobe plans to update the DNG specification to include an option to embed metadata-based representations of the lens compensations in the DNG file, allowing a mosaic DNG conversion. In the interim, Adobe recommends only converting these files to DNG to allow compatibility with third-party raw converters, previous versions of the Camera Raw plug-in, or previous versions of Photoshop Lightroom.* . _______________________________________________ Leica Users Group. See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information