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Subject: [Leica] Plustek Scanner (Lluis)
From: thurmanphoto at gmail.com (Wendy Thurman)
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 08:13:19 +0500
References: <f681deda1003111821g3e20d1e1y3e53f62a5b6e3460@mail.gmail.com> <DBBB7613E9FE41E4AD05F06295883860@jimnichols>

Thanks, Jim- now for the acid test.  Hugh and I will be out and about
shooting today and hopefully the day will result in something interesting...

Wendy

On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 8:07 AM, Jim Nichols <jhnichols at 
lighttube.net>wrote:

> Wendy,
>
>  From that test shot, it looks as if you have found a system that works for
>>
>>
> you.  Very nice example.
>
> Jim Nichols
> Tullahoma, TN USA
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wendy Thurman" <thurmanphoto at 
> gmail.com
> >
> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
> Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 8:21 PM
> Subject: [Leica] Plustek Scanner (Lluis)
>
>
>  Lluis-
>>
>> I'll take all the advice I can get!  Thanks for taking the time to write
>> it.
>>
>> More on the scanner- some of my problems with the film have not been film
>> problems, but scanner use (or misuse!)  My frustration level was getting
>> the
>> better of me so I shot a roll in careful conditions- test work only using
>> a
>> tripod and a gray scale taped to the wall, handheld shots in my room of
>> detailed items- text, patterns, etc.  The Hewes reel was a breeze to use.
>> Processed the film carefully, at 68F, 1:1, 10 minutes, 5 sec initial
>> agitiation and 5 sec every 30 sec afterwards.  The negatives looked great.
>> Then I scanned them and was horrified at the results.
>>
>> Silverfast software asks what sort of film one is using, and from the
>> beginning I had indicated Tri-X.  However, there is more!  Silverfast is
>> deceptively simple to use but there's more going on than I realized.
>> Knowing that the negatives were good, I concentrated on the software
>> settings.  Here's a result on the test roll I shot yesterday evening-
>> pedestrian photo but it's got all the tonal range and the look I expect
>> from
>> Tri-X:
>>
>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Wendy+Thurman/Untitled-1.jpg.html
>>
>> Onward!
>>
>> Wendy
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 5:44 AM, Lluis Ripoll Querol <
>> lluisripollquerol at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>  Wendy,
>>>
>>> Many thanks for the Plustek Scanners, this is usefull and I'll keep some
>>> more.
>>>
>>> Concerning your grain on Tri X is IMO more than usual, the reasons coud
>>> be
>>> diverse or a mix or someones, film badly conserved, low exposure,
>>> developping temperature to high...., as said I've developped a lot with
>>> ID-11, it is practically the same formula as D-76, but when I've do this
>>> the
>>> box containt a graphic time/temperature very useful. My process was easy:
>>> pre-soap the film in water about 30 sec. at the same temperature as the
>>> developper, verse the developper, agitate the first 30-45 sec. and after
>>> 5"
>>> every 30". If I wanted special detail on the shadows I interrupted the
>>> developping during 5 to 10 minutes putting water - always at the same
>>> temperature - . The other steps, the usuals. I've used too HCC 110, a
>>> very
>>> nice developper offering clean contrasts, but basically I've used for
>>> medium
>>> format, on 35mm the grain is quite noticeable in my opinion. I've learned
>>> many things and also I've understood better after I've red "The
>>> Negative", I
>>> always recommend this book.
>>>
>>> Sorry to be so long, I'm sure that you already know very well the
>>> procedure, I've just talk my old method.
>>>
>>> Goodf luck,
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Lluis
>>>
>>> El 11/03/2010, a las 2:24, Wendy Thurman escribi?:
>>>
>>>
>>>  Lluis-
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm struggling with the processing- I haven't hit on the right technique
>>>> yet.  I've got some Xtol and may try that.  While I don't mind a little
>>>> grain- expected it with the Tri-X- I am getting more than I'd like.  The
>>>> other extreme is Pan-F, which I have some of and will try next.
>>>>
>>>> While I haven't used the Plustek enough to comment with authority, it
>>>> seems
>>>> to be doing the job.  The two SE and AI are the same scanners (I
>>>> believe)
>>>> with different software packages.  I have the cheaper version, the SE.
>>>> It
>>>> comes with Silverfast software; if you are using a Mac don't install the
>>>> Plustek software that also comes with it- it won't work.  Silverfast
>>>> runs
>>>> fine on the Mac, however.  This is my first experience with a scanner so
>>>> I
>>>> am commenting from a pretty shallow statistical pool; it works fine,
>>>> doesn't
>>>> cost an arm and a leg, is lightweight, and easy to use.  I understand
>>>> that
>>>> VueScan works with it as well and is more user friendly than Silverfast
>>>> but
>>>> I don't know anything about that package.
>>>>
>>>> What I can tell you with absolute certainty is do not spill gin and
>>>> orange
>>>> juice on your MacBook Pro keyboard.  I'm having issues as a result of
>>>> that
>>>> mistake.
>>>>
>>>> Wendy
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 3:15 AM, Lluis Ripoll Querol <
>>>> lluisripollquerol at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  Hi Wendy,
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm always interested for your pictures of this far country, I'm
>>>>> usually
>>>>> quite fascinated by the oriental culture. I like the first one, it
>>>>> shows
>>>>> a
>>>>> dessertic place. IMO ther is quite grainy, I've developped on my
>>>>> darkroom
>>>>> days Tri X and HP 5 with D-76 or Ilford ID-11, almost the same formula
>>>>> and
>>>>> the effect of temperature had a certain big influence on the grain, I
>>>>> think
>>>>> remember that I prefer D-76 at 1:3 to achieve a more large range of
>>>>> tones,
>>>>> and I does a systematic quite vigourous agitation. I'm sorry to explain
>>>>> this, I want just tell you what I remember.
>>>>>
>>>>> On the other hand I see on your EXIF that you have scanned these with a
>>>>> Plustek Scanner 7500i, I was just planning purchase one of these, I
>>>>> know
>>>>> that there is the 7500i SE and AI, and I don't know which is the
>>>>> difference.
>>>>> I scann with an Epson Photo 3170 flatbed scanner, I'm quite happy for
>>>>> B&W
>>>>> but not for color. Are you happy with your Plustek?
>>>>>
>>>>> Please continue showing us pictures of Afghanistan, I enjoy them!
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>> Lluis
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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