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Subject: [Leica] My paper experience
From: richard at imagecraft.com (Richard Man)
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 23:01:58 -0800
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OK, will try it next time. I need to finish printing by Friday :-)

On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 10:51 PM, Chris Williams <zoeica at mac.com> wrote:

> Try Moab Entrada Natural Rag, I'm liking this paper quite a bit lately.
> Works extremely well with Epson K3 inks. And Moab is very customer friendly
> with color profile questions.
>
> Chris
> NOLA
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Man"
> Subject: [Leica] My paper experience
>
>
>  In printing for my next portfolio review, here are some comments on inkjet
>> paper that I tried this time.
>>
>> Firstly, at the last portfolio review, I did ~12 darkroom prints on Adox
>> MCC. There really is nothing that beats the silver gelatin print look...
>>
>> Second, my monitor is a calibrated ColorEdge CE240W - a reasonably
>> "middle-end" color correctable monitor. The next step up would be
>> something
>> 3x-4x more expensive at $5000+.
>>
>> My printer is a Z3100 and I make all my ICC profiles.
>>
>> - Best value: Epson Ultra Presentation Matte / Enhanced Matte / Archival
>> Matte etc. They change the names a few times, but it's their "low end"
>> stuff, over the cheap "photo paper." It's quite good. The best matte paper
>> is probably no more than 10-15% better, by any measure. If you like matte,
>> this can be your work print paper, or even for exhibit and sales.
>>
>> - Hahnemuhle Fine Arts Pearl. A few years ago, I quite like it. Semi-gloss
>> luster look. Now it's totally out classed by the new paper. Not
>> recommended.
>>
>> - Hahnemuhle photo rag, photo rag bright white etc. There are at least 2-3
>> variations. One of the best fine arts matte paper. My biggest complaint is
>> that it's very fragile. You look at it funny and then there's a scratch on
>> the print!
>>
>> Now a general commentary on matte paper. They look like... fine arts
>> paper,
>> like watercolor. I found the dark is not quite dark enough, and in fact,
>> if
>> you have a very dark print (e.g. night time), it can look downright muddy.
>> My wife, coming from a traditional artist background, like matte paper
>> more
>> than the ones below. I think they work best for art work reproduction.
>>
>> - Ilford Gold Fibre. This is one of the first and still more expensive
>> Baryta paper. It has the best dynamic range that I can see. It prints more
>> contrasty than my screen, this would be the one I'd use if I want that
>> slight gloss look.
>>
>> - Harman FB Fiber Matte, Warmtone and normal. This is currently my
>> favorite
>> paper. It's matte but less flat than the photo rag matte. The prints match
>> my screen more than other paper. Only thing it does not do well on is the
>> night shots. Again it just looks muddy.
>>
>> While the above two have baryta and suppose to look like darkroom prints,
>> they don't. OTOH, they look more like darkroom prints than the older
>> paper.
>>
>> ****
>> YMMV etc. etc.
>>
>> --
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