Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2010/02/28

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Subject: [Leica] Zeiss Wide Angle 35mm f/2 Biogon T* ZM
From: jsmith342 at gmail.com (Jeffery Smith)
Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 15:07:53 -0600
References: <C7B03DCA.5E67A%mark@rabinergroup.com>

Oddly enough, I thought that's what you were saying in your posts. Some of 
the reactions sort of surprised me.

For the record, I have a Nikon film SLR (FM3A) with a Zeiss 50/1.4 Planar on 
it. I just like the rendering that Zeiss glass gives. Maybe not as sharp as 
a Leica lens, but I love the results. I have room for lots of cameras in my 
collection, and never get TOO married to any single one of them.

Jeffery


On Feb 28, 2010, at 2:35 PM, Mark Rabiner wrote:

> Here's why I got as keyed in as much as I did as I realize some of my 
> typing
> was fuzzy, unlear or not to the real point.:
> There is certainly a place in the world for the excellent ZM lens line.
> I'd assume  or guess most of the stuff gives better than Nikon Canon
> results.
> The orignal post seemed to describe tor hark back to the Zeiss legacy going
> back a hundred years of fanatical high end quality. Which is what the Zeiss
> legacy is. An interesting combination of conservative lens design with
> innovation. But always very high quality which resulted in the very high
> price. Not the fluxuations of the German Mark.
> In the past years the stuff they had made by other companies to appeal to a
> whole different price point.  Kyrrocera and then Cosina and is just not 
> part
> of that intense tradition they were put in play to appeal to the mass
> market.
> They Zeiss designs perhaps but modified so they can be made to much lower
> tolerances an appealing to the popular market. The same companants can be
> used in more than one lens.
> The majority of lenes you buy from any company is  unless its some cutting
> edge Asperical based on a CLASSIC ZEISS DESIGN.
> So saying "get whizz it's a Zeiss design"  it not to the point.
> You've probably got one in your hand right now.
> 
> I think a thousand dollar nikon lens is competitive against a thousand
> dollar canon or Pentax, Olympus. Minolta. Cosina. Miranda.
> And a three thousand dollar Leica lens is competitive and comparable to a
> 3000 dollar Zeiss lens. Or a 3000 dollar  lens made from just about 
> anybody.
> Though I think the Kraft company should stay out of it.
> Saving money and NOT getting the highest end premium pie the sky thing is
> often the way to go. Its the usual way to go for most people most of the
> time.
> Sometimes you go for it and and break the bank and get the best.
> And a choice of glass is worth it.
> Leica gives you that opportunity.
> 
> [Rabs]
> Mark William Rabiner
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Replies: Reply from passaro.vince at gmail.com (Vince Passaro) ([Leica] Zeiss Wide Angle 35mm f/2 Biogon T* ZM)
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