[Leica] Zeiss Wide Angle 35mm f/2 Biogon T* ZM

[steve.barbour at gmail.com (Steve Barbour)]

as good as the ZM Biogon 35mm/2 is, the ZM Biogon 25mm/2.8 is quite possibly 
even better...
so one can consider going wider, and getting this lens as well, 
(or conceivably, instead of the ZM 35mm...)


Steve

On Feb 27, 2010, at 6:42 AM, Jan Decher wrote:

> Not again please, Mark!
> As a German your "worship" of everything manufactured in Germany is really
> embarrasing to me.
> 
> The whole thing with Leica Germany being so much better than anything made
> in Japan is really bogus. Of course Leica likes to foster and feed this
> myth. That's how they get  people to buy M9s for $7000 which will be
> outdated digital technology in 2 years just like any other digital camera.
> And then this whole hoax with the compeletely unaffordable S2 and 
> abolishing
> the entire R line that many here came to love and rely on!
> 
> Perhaps it was true in 1955 but not today. The chrome finish on my 1999
> Leica M6 is mediocre at the best - no comparison to my 1950s IIIf and 4/135
> Elmar etc.
> 
> You know what those $3000 you shell out for a Summicron 2/35 pay for,
> Mark?   5-6 weeks of annual paid vacation and full health and retirement
> benefits for engineers and workers at the Solms factory!  That's why 
> Germans
> working in Germany actually have time & money to travel and use their
> cameras. Something we can only dream off here in the US!
> So there. I meant to say this for a long time on this list.
> 
> Lasst Euch nicht verarschen, Leute!
> Jan
> 
> P.S.: Kevin: Buy the 2/35 ZM. I have the 2.8/35 and the 4.5/21 C-Biogons 
> and
> they are top value and fantastic image quality.  WiIl buy the 4/85
> Tele-Tessar and 1.5/50 Sonnar next.
> 
> ========
> Welcome to the LUG Kevin, the ZM Biogon 35 a very nice lens made by
> the very nice largest lens company in the world located in Japan.
> Its a ZM lens we refer to on the LUG.
> It cost a thousand dollars.
> A Summicron cost three thousand dollars.
> You want to compare them straight across you think that's wise?
> The ZM lenses are made in the same faculty that twenty other major
> brand named lenes are made. Within viewing distance of each other.
> Your post is full of Zeiss lenses are this and  Zeiss lenses  are
> that. A Zeiss lens cost three thousand or more dollars and are made
> in Germany with high tolerances amazingly high quality control and
> expensive choice glass types. For a hundred years.
> I own a half dozen for my Hasselblad system.
> The feel, look and quality has no resemblance at all to the nifty
> cheep stuff Cosina makes for them in Japan - with the Zeiss name on
> it. You want to call them a Zeiss lens you're fooling nobody but
> yourself. In another time warp dimension can you compare something
> straight across which cost a three times difference. Is made to way
> less tolerances. Well less quality glasses. Designed for an entirely
> different market. You want to save money?
> Get a CV or ZM lens for your Leica.
> You want a "world glass optic" you have to pay some real Leica money
> for it.
> 
> [Rabs]
> Mark William Rabiner
> 
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