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Subject: [Leica] M9, lag time, perception and other things
From: steve.barbour at gmail.com (Steve Barbour)
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 20:00:49 -0800
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On Jan 28, 2010, at 7:53 PM, Richard Man wrote:

> We are not talking you or I here :-) Take any of the famous HCB
> photos, 1/13th of a second would have made a huge difference!

let's face it, it likely would have ruined some, but it may have improved 
others,

Steve
> 
> I suspect most people would just change how they anticipate the
> moment. Anyway, not a dig at your beloved Leica :-) so no worry there.
> 
> 
> On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 7:31 PM, Geoff Hopkinson <hopsternew at gmail.com> 
> wrote:
>> Only if he could also anticipate and visualise the shot, raise the
>> prefocused and exposure set camera to his eye, frame the shot and take up
>> the first travel/pressure of the shutter release before it operates. And
>> then 64 thousandths of a second longer is making a difference!  Sheesh you
>> guys must be much more critical on this than I. Don't forget to factor in
>> some reaction time, Go/No Go decision, discrimination and attentional
>> lapses as well (Wikipedia to the rescue).
>> 
>> All of the 'decisive moments' that I miss have nothing to do with camera
>> shutter lag. Not since I threw away several earlier digital cameras 
>> anyway.
>> 
>> Cheers
>> Geoff
>> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman
>> 
>> 
>> On 29 January 2010 09:38, Richard Man <richard.lists at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> To tie it to the other threads, wonder how the shutter lag would
>>> affect HCB. Would it be simply a matter of "anticipating earlier" or
>>> would it just missed opportunities?
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 3:25 PM, Marty Deveney <benedenia at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 0.08 s is about 1/13 s - much longer than most exposures.
>>>> 
>>>> Later,
>>>> 
>>>> Marty
>>>> 
>>> 
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> 
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