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Subject: [Leica] Collapsible 50mm Elmar and Summicron on M8 M9
From: steve.barbour at gmail.com (Steve Barbour)
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2010 20:43:24 -0800
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On Jan 16, 2010, at 5:30 PM, Rei Shinozuka wrote:

> I only have 2 collapsibles, the summitar and summicron.  (the summitar has 
> the conical IR-cut filter created kindly for me by Len Taupier) i can't 
> say what the long-term effect of constant collapsing of these lenses into 
> the M8 is, but i have mounted both and collapsed both on the M8, and it 
> won't smash the shutter or anything dramatic like that.  on the other 
> hand, when collapsing you do sometimes feel something contact inside when 
> the lens is half-collapsed--i think it's the protrusions in the film 
> chamber to the left and right behind the bayonet contacting the lens tube 
> as it goes back.  the lens continues to collapse without force.
> 
> In summary:
> 1. you can fully collapse the lenses on an M8
> 2. they don't smash the shutter.
> 3. the tube seems to gently contact something inside the film chamber, but 
> there's no discernible damage.
> 4. officially the makers warn against collapsing these lenses, but it's 
> not clear why.
> 5. since the fit of the back of the focus tube is tight inside when 
> collapsed, i'd recommend not mounting and removing lenses when in 
> collapsed state.


good points all Rei, and I agree, especially with the last point,

Steve


> 
> -rei
> 
> 
> Lluis Ripoll Querol wrote:
>> Hi Len,
>> 
>> I'm glad you are fine!, happy new year and I hope continue seeing your 
>> pictures, particularly those so nice with your beautiful Summarex!.
>> 
>> I've used very few these collapsible lenses on the M8, and I'll keep 
>> careful without collapsing.
>> 
>> Nice to meet you again on the LUG,
>> 
>> Keep wel,
>> Cheers
>> Lluis
>> 
>> Lluis Ripoll Querol
>> lluisripollquerol at gmail.com
>> 
>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/
>> http://photo.net/photos/lluisripoll
>> Blog:
>> http://lluisripollphotography.wordpress.com/
>> 
>> http://www.lrmusic.es
>> 
>> El 17/01/2010, a las 1:44, Leonard Taupier escribi?:
>> 
>>> Hi Lluis,
>>> 
>>> Yes I'm fine. I browse the LUG from time to time and Steve's question 
>>> caught my eye. Yes the Summicrons and Elmars are OK. The screw mount 
>>> f3.5 Elmars are a little close though. I use them all on my M8s but keep 
>>> them extended.
>>> 
>>> Len
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jan 16, 2010, at 3:08 PM, Lluis Ripoll Querol wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Steve,
>>>> 
>>>> As far as I know you can collapse Summicrons and Elmar on the M8, I've 
>>>> have both but I've never collapsed on..., I'm careful.  I remember this 
>>>> question was answered longtime ago by an our expert friend Leonard 
>>>> Taupier, I hope he is well.
>>>> 
>>>> Amiti?s
>>>> Lluis
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> El 16/01/2010, a las 19:25, Steve Barbour escribi?:
>>>> 
>>>>> Again the current M9 manual warns against using collapsible lenses 
>>>>> with the M9, in the collapsed ie non extended mode.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I recall a LUGer, with plenty of experience, has said that the 50mm 
>>>>> Collapsible Elmars and Summicrons are in fact not a risk to the M8 & 
>>>>> M9 even when collapsed....
>>>>> 
>>>>> Is this correct?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> thanks,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Steve
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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