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Subject: [Leica] Nathan's PAD 28/12/2009: two from Europe's southern end
From: michiel.fokkema at gmail.com (Michiel Fokkema)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 22:49:44 +0100
References: <7B6B27E5-8559-4E22-9263-D2A012B0C366@frozenlight.eu> <4B39D51E.2050207@gmail.com> <4B39D731.5090303@gmx.de> <C3603C18-A4E8-4307-9659-0B4989C31141@frozenlight.eu> <899464.84261.qm@web82103.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4B3A2220.4020509@gmx.de> <856967.16257.qm@web82103.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4B3A3F67.2090306@gmx.de> <4B3A75C8.6000902@frozenlight.eu>

I often stayed in two privately owned inn's close to Birmingham. They  
both served excellent food and great breakfast too.
On the other hand I also had my worst food ever in the UK.
Cheers?
Michiel Fokkema


Op 29 dec 2009 om 22:34 heeft Nathan <photo at frozenlight.eu> het  
volgende geschreven:\

> I fully agree with Douglas. Despite snotty comments from various  
> Francophones, British food is quite good if you get it in the right  
> place, like the freehouse near Bristol where we stayed last summer  
> for a night. When I am in London, I go for Indian or Chinese or  
> Korean food.
>
> Nathan
>
> On 29/12/2009 18:41, Douglas Sharp wrote:
>> Bob,
>>
>> London is a wonderful city - but, on average, not a place to find  
>> good British food.
>>
>> Country pubs tend to be the best bet for a good meal at reasonable  
>> prices. Best of all are generally pubs that are not part of a  
>> brewery/gastronmic chain and are not too close to airports.
>>
>> I pity the staff at a lot of places in London, slave-labour wage  
>> rates, long hours and a cost of living that is more than  
>> astronomical. Even though they do get CR training, it must be very  
>> hard to even try staying polite and smiling.
>>
>> When we visit London, we tend to stay in hotels in smaller towns  
>> well out of the city and take advantage of the superb (/mostly/)  
>> public transport system to get into town, it's often cheaper,  
>> better and a lot more friendly.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Douglas
>>
>> On 29.12.2009 17:10, Bob Adler wrote:
>>> Hi Doug,
>>> My wife and I were lucky enough to visit London this past fall.  
>>> Truly a thrill for us.
>>> There were, however and as you suggest, some memorable  
>>> gastronomical moments, mostly related to indigenous food. But we  
>>> also had some great Thai and Indian  food while visiting.
>>> We did leave thinking that perhaps the service industries  
>>> (restaurants, hotels, etc.) could use a bit of training in  
>>> customer relations...
>>> :-)
>>> Best,
>>> Bob
>>>  Bob Adler
>>> Palo Alto, CA
>>> http://www.rgaphoto.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Douglas Sharp<douglas.sharp at gmx.de>
>>> To: Leica Users Group<lug at leica-users.org>
>>> Cc: Bob Adler<rgacpa at yahoo.com>
>>> Sent: Tue, December 29, 2009 7:37:04 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Nathan's PAD 28/12/2009: two from Europe's  
>>> southern end
>>>
>>> Bob,
>>>
>>> The Brits are famous for hiding their food, Shepherd's Pie on the  
>>> menu
>>> in the background is another - minced beef (should be lamb or  
>>> mutton)
>>> topped off with mashed potato (typically made with the remains of  
>>> the
>>> Sunday joint) - then there are so many different pies and pasties,  
>>> both
>>> sweet and savoury, with plenty of pastry to hide the cook's evil  
>>> doings.
>>>
>>> We also hide sausages in Yorkshire pudding and calling it Toad in  
>>> the
>>> Hole (perhaps it was at some time).
>>>
>>> BTW: Mushy Peas are wonderful if they are made right
>>>
>>> Although I think this line from Wikipedia is a little cynical:
>>>
>>> "Mushy Peas is a popular and characteristic British dish that has  
>>> helped
>>> to give British cooking its well-deserved reputation."
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Douglas
>>>
>>> On 29.12.2009 16:08, Bob Adler wrote:
>>>> Ah, kind of like dim sum; you never know what's REALLY inside!
>>>> Best from Northern California (where you know what you're  
>>>> eating...)
>>>> ;-)
>>>> Bob
>>>>   Bob Adler
>>>> Palo Alto, CA
>>>> http://www.rgaphoto.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ________________________________
>>>> From: Nathan<photo at frozenlight.eu>
>>>> To: Leica Users Group<lug at leica-users.org>
>>>> Sent: Tue, December 29, 2009 6:18:58 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Nathan's PAD 28/12/2009: two from Europe's  
>>>> southern end
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for looking, Michiel and Douglas. Yes, vinegar was  
>>>> provided, the mushy peas were sadly absent. Later, while walking  
>>>> around the town I did see other people enjoying their fish&    
>>>> chips with peas, so I guess I just chose the wrong place.  
>>>> However, the fish was good and fresh and there was in fact more  
>>>> fish than breading, always a good thing :-) I think the fish was  
>>>> cod.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Nathan
>>>>
>>>> On 29/12/2009, at 11:17, Douglas Sharp wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> What!! No mushy peas?
>>>>>
>>>>> What kind of fish do they use, something out of the Med? Or do  
>>>>> they import cod, hake, coley and haddock?
>>>>>
>>>>> Douglas
>>>>>
>>>>> On 29.12.2009 11:08, Michiel Fokkema wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yeah, that looks very English. Vinegar on the french fries?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Michiel fokkema
>>>>>> -------------------------
>>>>>> Fokkema Fotografie
>>>>>> www.michielfokkema.com
>>>>>> michiel.fokkema at gmail.com
>>>>>> +31(0)615569576
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nathan wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Our journey through Andalucia continues, and yesterday, I  
>>>>>>> visited Gibraltar for the first time. When it was time for  
>>>>>>> lunch, I got exactly the English treat I craved, plus better  
>>>>>>> weather than I would get in England this time of year:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.greatpix.eu/Other/Picture-A-Day/4253606_netUM#752084260_Zinkt-O-LB
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Then we walked around the town and finally ended the day at  
>>>>>>> Europa Point, Europe's southern tip:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.greatpix.eu/Other/Picture-A-Day/4253606_netUM#752084339_5bhva-O-LB
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Two for one today, but Gibraltar was really an impressive  
>>>>>>> place. Now on to Granada later this morning.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nathan
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nathan Wajsman
>>>>>>> Alicante, Spain
>>>>>>> http://www.frozenlight.eu
>>>>>>> http://www.greatpix.eu
>>>>>>> http://www.nathanfoto.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0
>>>>>>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws
>>>>>>> Image licensing: http://www.alamy.com/search-results.asp?qt=wajsman
>>>>>>> Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>
>>>> Nathan Wajsman
>>>> Alicante, Spain
>>>> http://www.frozenlight.eu
>>>> http://www.greatpix.eu
>>>> http://www.nathanfoto.com
>>>>
>>>> Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0
>>>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws
>>>> Image licensing: http://www.alamy.com/search-results.asp?qt=wajsman
>>>> Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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> photo at frozenlight.eu
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