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Subject: [Leica] M9 Internal IR-Cut filter make the camera fragile to use?
From: dstella1 at ameritech.net (Dante Stella)
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 18:31:56 -0500
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The 12mm and 15mm lenses are the ones causing consternation. 

Dante

On Dec 18, 2009, at 5:42 PM, Geoff Hopkinson wrote:

> Mine works fine including with my 24 and 28 wide open. The biggest problem
> that people are reporting is simply that there aren't enough to go around
> for all of the orders so far.
> On the cover glass problem, there are six reports currently (from the
> thousands of cameras delivered thus far), which is six too many of course.
> Too early for the cause or causes to be determined. One camera was replaced
> on the spot by the dealer (lucky customer that the dealer had another) and
> one that was returned to Solms was repaired in 2 days. I hope the other 4
> customers can soon report similar rapid resolutions.
> 
> 2009/12/19 Dante Stella <dstella1 at ameritech.net>
> 
>> Bear in mind that replacing the sensor glass on an M8 requires a
>> board-level replacement ($1,800) - so if this situation occurs with the 
>> M9,
>> and you don't catch it in-warranty, you could be in for a world of hurt.  
>> I
>> don't think Leica changed any of its procurement practices.  I suspect 
>> that
>> it simply lacks the clean room necessary to replace the glass to Leica
>> cleanliness standards and can pass the massive cost of what should be a 
>> $300
>> repair to the end user.
>> 
>> Oh yeah... M9, perfect the day it was released, no teething problems,
>> investment for the ages, etc.  So we have red shifting, complaints about
>> wide-angle lenses, complaints about incomplete IR blocking, and now broken
>> cover glasses.  Every manufacturer of everything has problems early in the
>> production run.  It's unrealistic to expect that a digital camera pushed 
>> out
>> the door in 18 months would be any different.
>> 
>> And as my father said, "every car looks like a classic the year it comes
>> out."
>> 
>> Dante
>> 
>> ____________
>> Dante Stella
>> http://www.dantestella.com
>> 
>> NO ARCHIVE
>> 
>> On Dec 18, 2009, at 4:02 AM, Jerry Justianto wrote:
>> 
>>> After waiting for 3 months my M9 is arrived. But so sad fresh from the
>>> box, the internal IR filter is broken.
>>> 
>>> Look at http://www.pbase.com/jsjxyz/pad
>>> 
>>> The dealer return it back to leica and ask me to passiently wait for
>>> new delivery.
>>> 
>>> Actually this accident raise me a question: is it due to the very thin
>>> glass of IR-cut filter on top of the sensor make m9 a fragile camera
>>> to be used?
>>> 
>>> Would love to hear how m9 can pass the torture test of Tina Manley :).
>>> 
>>> See L-camera-forum.con, actually this broken IR is not only my
>> experience.
>>> 
>>> Jsj
>>> 
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>>> 
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> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Cheers
> Geoff
> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman
> 
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Replies: Reply from hopsternew at gmail.com (Geoff Hopkinson) ([Leica] M9 Internal IR-Cut filter make the camera fragile to use?)
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Message from dstella1 at ameritech.net (Dante Stella) ([Leica] M9 Internal IR-Cut filter make the camera fragile to use?)
Message from hopsternew at gmail.com (Geoff Hopkinson) ([Leica] M9 Internal IR-Cut filter make the camera fragile to use?)