[Leica] Harshness on the Lug ? NOT ENOUGH!

[ricc at embarqmail.com (Ric Carter)]

For those who don't want to put themselves out too much for their 
photography and like a crisp criticism, I suggest that Flickr is a place 
already well suited to your needs.

I'm not suggesting that anyone leave, just don't try to make this that other 
place.

There is no reason for the lug to try to displace it.

Everyone is welcome to enjoy the best of both worlds, if they choose both.

ric


On Dec 17, 2009, at 6:38 PM, <tedgrant at shaw.ca> wrote:

> Critiquing others' photography when you do not know the emotional 
> stability of a poster? That in itself can be a surprising event! It can be 
> a tough call making comments when you find the shooter takes comments 
> personally rather than about their photograph. And you receive a smashing 
> tongue lashing for your comments. Usually private.
> 
> During the Leica Seminar for the past 16 years the final part of my 
> involvement is critiquing a selection of images from the attendees shot on 
> a similar theme line during the three days, trust me a tough call for 
> about 4 hours one image right after the other up on the screen! However it 
> is considered one of the best learning elements of the seminar.
> 
> You have the good, bad, ugly and absolutely beautiful imagination of a 
> creative photographer. This is all done in the open so everyone can hear 
> and learn, not just one individual at a time. The crowd effect much as we 
> see on the LUG. I don't think I've ever said "nice picture"other than on 
> one occasion when I was admonished because "I didn't say why it was a good 
> all round great photo!"
> 
> At the time I had automatically assumed everyone would know why it was a 
> smashing good photograph! So I made a simple non-descript comment and 
> moved on. That was wrong! Simply because not everyone is of equal 
> experience nor of seeing talent. Certainly as we see here day after day. 
> That isn't a problem having the mixture of talent and years of experience 
> simply because there's a wonderful depth of learning power here no matter 
> if one is starting out or doing it for 60 years! You always learn and or, 
> are motivated because of what you see and read.
> 
> However, if one takes the time to firmly critique every posting you'd 
> never leave the screen, period! Mine sort of go in fits and starts not on 
> a fixed day to day, image to image. But I do try to make points for all to 
> learn something or a positive comment simply because it is a damn fine 
> picture! Obviously it doesn't always work when you have such a diversified 
> group of experiences and talents. I'm sure some comments aren't made 
> simply because a poster "doesn't want to hurt a persons feelings!" And 
> that's fair enough, but by not posting we aren't doing anyone any favors 
> whether you get yer butt whipped or praised to the highest points of 
> success. It isn't about you personally, it's about the photograph you made 
> and how you may or maynot make it better! Or as simple as a pat on the 
> back for a neat one.
> 
> So a suggestion? We post our comments about a photo good, bad or ugly! Let 
> your comments roll and see where we go with it.  Certainly worth a try 
> given we've seen such a number of posts about being harsher?  What think 
> you?
> cheers,
> ted 
> 
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