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Subject: [Leica] Anybody with an actual M9 have experience with largefast cards?
From: gregj_lorenzo at hotmail.com (Greg Lorenzo)
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 00:45:21 -0700
References: <836BDDA255F69943929C12E0E7E1C628042AE7A3@EXVBE005-1.exch005intermedia.net> <009e01ca600c$804f38b0$80edaa10$@net>

They are 36MB uncompressed and 18MB compressed in DNG per my M9 user manual. 
This is w/o the additional jpeg.

 

I've only selected the compressed format so far.

 

Greg Lorenzo

Calgary, Canada
 
> From: photo at frozenlight.eu
> Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 08:39:55 +0100
> To: lug at leica-users.org
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Anybody with an actual M9 have experience with 
> largefast cards?
> 
> I wonder why your 18 mp DNGs from the M9 are 34.7 MB when my 10 mp 
> DNGs from the M8 are around 10-11 MB, also on the card. Are you by any 
> chance shooting DNG+JPG?
> 
> Cheers,
> Nathan
> 
> Nathan Wajsman
> Alicante, Spain
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> 
> 
> On Nov 8, 2009, at 8:24 AM, Geoff Hopkinson wrote:
> 
> > If you are shooting uncompressed (14 bit) 18mp DNGs the files are 
> > 34.7MB
> > each on the card. Interestingly, importing them with LR3 will 
> > losslessly
> > compress those (both the original and second copy) to ~18MB on your
> > computer/external drive.
> > I use all 4GB cards on the M8 as my choice and found the almost 400 
> > frames
> > per card practical with the M8 when travelling and shooting a lot. I 
> > think
> > that 16GB cards will become the new 4GB for me.
> > Keep in mind that you will need to change the battery periodically 
> > (expected
> > 400~500 exposures dependant on your style), so in my opinion it is 
> > better to
> > align the card change with that operation if you have a heavy shooting
> > schedule. For cost and risk reasons also, in my opinion 16GB is the 
> > best
> > choice. For less demandig situations, around 90 frames on a 4GB 
> > card is
> > pretty useful anyway. I think that 32GB is the highest supported in 
> > the SDHC
> > standard. Someone will correct me if that's out of date. Write 
> > speeds may
> > see some improvements when firmware updates become available in the 
> > future.
> > 2009/11/8 Bryan Willman <bryanwi at bryanwi.com>
> >
> >> I have never had a card fail. I have had computers crash and nearly
> >> lose data after cards are off loaded. I often have a hard time 
> >> keeping
> >> track of too many small things.
> >>
> >> So my theory is to have, say, 4 very large cards. (at least 16gb, 
> >> but
> >> 64gb if the M9 works with them.) Then, on a long trip (say 2 
> >> weeks in
> >> Europe), you shoot quite freely, but NEVER reuse/reformat a card.
> >> After off loading, don't reformat the cards until your various backup
> >> processes are confirmed to have worked.
> >>
> >> So one wants to carry enough cards to cover all of the shooting for 
> >> any
> >> trip without needing to delete anything from a card. (Copy to 
> >> disk if
> >> possible just to have a backup) Digital cameras -> lots of 
> >> exposures
> >> (because we can.) Rather than carrying 16 by 16gb cards, would 
> >> rather
> >> carry 4 64gb cards.
> >>
> >> The reason I raise the question is that my M8 originally couldn't 
> >> cope
> >> with SDHC cards, and was effectively limited to 2GB. Does the M9 
> >> have
> >> such a disease? Will it work reliably with 64gb cards?
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: lug-bounces+bryanwi=bryanwi.com at leica-users.org
> >> [mailto:lug-bounces+bryanwi <lug-bounces%2Bbryanwi>=bryanwi.com@
> >> leica-users.org] On Behalf Of
> >> Frank Filippone
> >> Sent: 2009-Nov-07 4:44 PM
> >> To: 'Leica Users Group'
> >> Subject: Re: [Leica] Anybody with an actual M9 have experience with
> >> largefast cards?
> >>
> >> There are 2 ways to go.. get the biggest card you can, or get a 
> >> bunch of
> >> smaller ones....
> >>
> >> Advantage to the big card: It holds more. At 18MB per snap, there 
> >> are
> >> roughly 3200 full RAW images you can store on a 64GB card.....But it
> >> takes
> >> longer to format, delete a bunch, etc. and if it goes south, you 
> >> lose
> >> it
> >> all.
> >> Advantage to the smaller cards..... They hold less. You will not 
> >> be as
> >> exposed should you lose a card or it goes south on you.....But then 
> >> you
> >> must
> >> store a bunch of cards. The cards being pretty tiny, this should 
> >> not be
> >> as
> >> big a deal as it was with film.
> >>
> >> I am really interested.......Why go big card? What other 
> >> advantages do
> >> you
> >> see?
> >>
> >> Frank Filippone
> >> red735i at earthlink.net
> >>
> >>
> >> What I'm really asking is - what is the biggest, fastest, SD card 
> >> that
> >> is "safe" to buy for the M9?
> >>
> >> thx
> >> bmw
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> >
> >
> >
> > -- 
> > Cheers
> > Geoff
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