Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2009/11/06
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Hi folks I suppose it's my turn! ;-) Tina offered: >> ;-) I admire anybody who takes the time and makes the effort to still >> work > in the darkroom these days, but I don't think any photo made in the > darkroom > is automatically "better" than any photo printed on an inkjet > printer.<<<<<<<,, No argument. Include me, same comment! :-) If you consider I've been doing "darkroom printing since June 1949", yep that long!! And also making 16X20 competition prints, double weight paper of the day choice, not far behind that date for exhibitions and competitions. And yes I won a couple of neat little awards for "print quality." Oh by the way it wasn't for image content... but print quality! :-) Different things for different folks...:-) Personally? I thought they were idiots! Yep nice prints, but I took the photograph because of the impact of the moment! Not how good the print was! Jeesh techie people that far back! :-) :-) So I figure that many years of experience should count for something. :-) There are 16X20 fine art produced prints in the National Archives of Canada Gallery from exhibitions of my photography hung there, long before I sent them my 280,000 images for their final resting place in the deep frozen vaults of archival never neverland. :-) Yes there is something about those long ago wet tray printed 16X20's that has a look! You never forget that look! Don't forget good old Ansel wasn't the only one in the world who could make excellent prints, even if I had to use 10 sheets or more before I got the magical look to the dried print! :-) Remember wet tray... "It was what the print looked like after it "dried!" Not when it changed it's look in the fix/hypo tray! But we have moved into a new time warp photography position and I must say, not my prints, even though I've made a few nice ones, I don't consider them any where near the beautiful prints I've seen. But I've seen some inkjet prints that are absolutely mind blowing quality. Quite frankly I don't even ask how to do? They have been so beautiful, rich and moving depth of shades it would be scary to ask "How did you do this?" I'm sure some might say... "I just punch the, "print button!" ;-) ;-) Then again their would be the technical person with an hour of setting the printer for the quality they want. I really think the constant back and forth of comparison, wet tray -- inkjet is becoming a waste of time! If not an interesting pastime! :-) And I don't doubt it will go on for the next millennium. :-) But as paper types improve, inks become better, not to forget the massive improvement of printers compared to some of those mickey mouse machines of just a few years ago, will make the comparison really just a conversation between printers of today and those of tomorrow! Those who remember the wet tray scene?? We will be the people in the glass case of the museum holding a pair of tongs and looking quite ancient in our loin cloths! ;-) ! :-) cheers, ted ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Man" <richard.lists at gmail.com> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org> Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 12:20 PM Subject: Re: [Leica] Technology, Ted and Tina Thank you Dante, I love your words and please stop "NO ARCHIVE" on them. Each of them is easily worth 10 posts of mine :-) Tina, actually, so far in these exchanges, it's the darkroom prints (WETPRINTs WETPRINTs, so there Mark), that got hammered. I just said "*I* like B&W wetprint becuase ....," and said I have seen one print of Ansel Adam that has immense depth that I did not see captured in his "collectible" inkjet print version. Whereas everyone else tells me how superior the inkjet process and output are as a general output process, which I do know about and agree with. "Oh the great LUG software, please ARCHIVE" On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 6:41 AM, Tina Manley <images at comporium.net> wrote: > ;-) I admire anybody who takes the time and makes the effort to still work > in the darkroom these days, but I don't think any photo made in the > darkroom > is automatically "better" than any photo printed on an inkjet printer. > -- // richard m: richard @imagecraft.com // w: http://www.imagecraft.com/pub/Portfolio09/ blog: http://rfman.wordpress.com // book: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/detail/745963 _______________________________________________ Leica Users Group. See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.52/2484 - Release Date: 11/06/09 07:38:00