Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2009/11/02

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Subject: [Leica] the ultimate digest Leica criticism thread
From: steve.barbour at gmail.com (Steve Barbour)
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 16:06:02 -0800
References: <C715152F.41E1%lug@steveunsworth.co.uk> <552449.11271.qm@web55901.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

On Nov 2, 2009, at 3:56 PM, H. Ball Arche wrote:

> A vivid memory from 3rd grade: Tommy Mandel, bug-eyed and gagged,  
> tied to his seat with jump ropes, and STILL he had that desk  
> skittering around the room. We were all OK with it. He'd been put  
> there by sweet, tiny, ancient Mrs. Coles, a paragon of kindness.
>
> It was 1964 and there wasn't a name for ADHD yet.


I wonder if gags and jump ropes worked better than  Ritalin?


Steve
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>
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> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Steve Unsworth <lug at steveunsworth.co.uk>
> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Sent: Mon, November 2, 2009 5:01:03 PM
> Subject: Re: [Leica] the ultimate digest Leica criticism thread
>
> Just a quick question Ted, did you treat your own children in the  
> same way
> when they were at home? Lock them in cupboards for hours maybe, or  
> banged
> their heads against a table if they answered a question incorrectly?
>
> If not, do you think they would have been better people if you had?
>
> We had some sadistic teachers when I was at school too. I remember one
> occasion in a German lesson where the teacher lost his temper with a  
> pupil,
> put his head in the desk and repeatedly banded the top of the desk  
> on the
> back of his head, not as a punishment but purely and simply because  
> he'd
> lost both his temper and his control. Others were throwing board  
> dusters
> around. Another - a P.E. Teacher - used to watch the young boys when  
> they
> were taking a shower. I could go on.
>
> I normally agree with you Ted, but I think you are wrong in promoting
> control by fear. If kids misbehave it's because of the parents IMHO.
>
> Steve
>
>
> On 2/11/09 22:02, "tedgrant at shaw.ca" <tedgrant at shaw.ca> wrote:
>
>> Jeeeeeeeeeeeeshhhhhhhh you know I'm one of those old guys who  
>> believes one
>> good smack deserves another if you still don't behave! It's called
>> discipline! And respect!
>
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