[Leica] IMG: Playing At The Point

[rgacpa at yahoo.com (Bob Adler)]

Wendy,

I respectfully disagree. I think only the very few have a definitive vision 
(Steve Barbour, Tina Manley, Ted Grant, Jim Shulman come to mind, though 
there are many others on the list). Most of us are searching and will search 
to the end. So let's enjoy the journey together :-)

Please?don't stop lending your input, gut feel or expert opinion. They are 
both so helpful in moving through the?journey. And I look forward to seeing 
your vision evolve.

Just wish more?folks would chime in. All thoughts are very welcome and, 
though it may not be apparent, useful and provocative.
Thanks very much for sharing your time and input,
Bob
?Bob Adler
Palo Alto, CA
http://www.raflexions.com 




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From: Wendy Thurman <wendythurman at gmail.com>
To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 8:35:48 AM
Subject: Re: [Leica] IMG: Playing At The Point

Bob-

The sky on that shot under discussion- and its effect on the water- just
blew me away.? My eye hungered for more of that and less of the foreground.
That's probably a personal "eye want" more than an informed critical
opinion.

I am anxious to see the re-works, knowing that what appeals to me may well
not be the "definitive" image.

I am struggling mightily to define my personal style and as a result am
probably not well positioned to critically comment on the photographs of
others.

Your work is not only insightful, it is excellent.? I am hesitant to offer
criticism as I appear to be floundering around in that "what do I want to
say?" place.

I don't have a defined vision although I am working towards that.? If I
don't know where I am, I am less than qualified to comment on where you are.

Wendy

On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 8:16 PM, Bob Adler <rgacpa at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Hi Nathan.
> Thanks for the feedback. There's no denying that the light of the last shot
> is what makes it. You can't fake rising and setting light in landscape
> photos (at least I don't know how and really don't want to know how!).
> Seeing as I only get to go shoot my landscapes every other week for a 
> single
> day, making the best of whatever light is available that day is what I have
> to do. I was fortunate that there was both a negative tide AND a partly
> cloudy to overcast day. That's as good as it gets for me.
>
> Both Wendy and Oliver have also given me good feedback on these images. I'm
> reworking the images, including the last one, and hope to post them again
> soon. As for the color, it's real and unnatural! That's what makes Weston
> Beach such an attractive stage; it's a surreal spot.
>
> Thanks very much for the input. Please let me know what you think of the
> reposted images once I get them up.
> All the best,
> Bob
>? Bob Adler
> Palo Alto, CA
> http://www.raflexions.com
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Nathan Wajsman <photo at frozenlight.eu>
> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 10:04:14 PM
> Subject: Re: [Leica] IMG: Playing At The Point
>
> Bob, it is not that I dislike it, but I just like the last one better.
> Regarding that first one, the colors look a bit unnatural to me, as if you
> had gone overboard a bit in Photoshop--which I am sure you did not, it just
> appears that way.
>
> Cheers,
> Nathan
>
> Nathan Wajsman
> Alicante, Spain
> http://www.frozenlight.eu
> http://www.greatpix.eu
> http://www.nathanfoto.com
>
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>
> On Oct 19, 2009, at 11:10 PM, Bob Adler wrote:
>
> > I'm just a bit curious and hoping folks will chime in.
> > I find the first shot in this series to be my favorite:
> > http://raflexions.com/playpt/content/_GA_9963_large.html
> > Can any/everyone explain why this one doesn't really grab/appeal? I'd
> really learn from your input, so many thanks,
> > Bob
> >? Bob Adler
> > Palo Alto, CA
> > http://www.raflexions.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Philippe Amard <philippe.amard at sfr.fr>
> > To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> > Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 1:46:17 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Leica] IMG: Playing At The Point
> >
> >
> >
> > Bob Adler wrote:
> >
> >> Thanks Wendy and Phillipe. Your choice seems to be the unanimous
> one.It's a pretty classic shot at Pt. Lobos. Just wish the sky had lit up,
> but there was a large fog bank way off shore that blocked the final minutes
> of the sunset...
> >>
> >> Phillipe, yes, I did use a polarizer for the beach shots; everything is
> so wet you just have to or you have nothing but speckles all over the 
> image.
> >>
> >>
> > I love the tones you got - and will shoot with a pola whenever I get to
> > the seaside again - thanks for the confirmation
> >
> >> I didn't use one, however, on the final shot that you prefer.
> >>
> >>
> > It's the light that makes it too, don't be too demanding - you know the
> > potential, I saw the result, and found it much to my taste, so no
> > regrets, no worry :-)
> >
> > Philippe
> >
> >> Thanks for taking a look,
> >> Bob
> >> Bob Adler
> >> Palo Alto, CA
> >> http://www.raflexions.com
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ________________________________
> >> From: Wendy Thurman <wendythurman at gmail.com>
> >> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> >> Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 1:14:29 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [Leica] IMG: Playing At The Point
> >>
> >> I agree with Phillipe- this is a beautiful photograph.
> >>
> >> Wendy
> >>
> >> On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 11:55 AM, Philippe Amard <philippe.amard at 
> >> sfr.fr
> >wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> All good to excellent compositions - my favourite light is the last one
> >>> http://raflexions.com/playpt/content/_GA_0074_large.html
> >>> Also I saw a starfish - lucky you ! Very well rendered too.
> >>>
> >>> Was a polarizing travelling with you?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks for sharing
> >>> Philippe
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Bob Adler wrote:
> >>>
> >>>? A negative tide (-0.5), partly cloudy day, sun arcing through the
> south, a
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> wide angle tilt lens and a macro... My wife and I went to play by the
> >>>> seashore; Pt. Lobos/Weston Beach. Patrick (for those of you who watch
> Sponge
> >>>> Bob) and his friends came out to play in the salad bar of the Pacific.
> >>>> Hope you enjoy as much as I did,
> >>>> (Sponge) Bob
> >>>> http://www.raflexions.com/playpt
> >>>> Bob Adler
> >>>> Palo Alto, CA
> >>>> http://www.raflexions.com
> >>>>
> >>>>
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