Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2009/08/29

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Subject: [Leica] ...now PJ
From: luisripoll at telefonica.net (Lluis Ripoll)
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2009 01:04:37 +0200
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Really wise words Dr. Ted, to keep in the memmory.

Thanks for this

Cheers
Lluis


El 30/08/2009, a las 0:30, TED GRANT escribi?:

> George Lottermoser offered:
> Subject: Re: [Leica] ...now PJ
>> Same thoughts and questions came to my mind.
>> "The Concerned Photographer"
>> <http://www.artic.edu/aic/exhibitions/concerned.html>
>> and the book from 1968
>> <http://www.amazon.com/Concerned-Photographer-Photographs-
>> Bischof-
>> Kertesz/dp/B000BYG608/ref=sr_1_1? 
>> ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1251579457&sr=1-1>
>> certainly attempt to answer the question.
>>
>> I suspect that the answer rests in how much real and quality time
>> the photographer spends with their subject(s).
>>
>> Whether one captures only the "horror"
>> or the humanity and story within the situation
>> will depend on the depth of one's "concern"
>> and the time devoted to the subject.
>> The difference between the isolated grab shot
>> of a homeless person on the street
>> and the photo essay about that same person,
>> photographed over weeks or months,
>> including discussions with them,
>> will appear in the photographs.
>
> George,
> Time is the answer and funds to be able to spend the time to do the  
> in-depth photo essay. That is unless the photographer has the  
> economic background to be able to afford the time and costs required  
> to do it correctly!
> These days magazines have no interest in publishing in-depth 12 -16  
> pages of space that the general public have little or no interest in  
> the subject. Nor do book publishers have any interest either! That  
> is unless it's a Hollywood drug addict or dipstick going into or  
> coming out of rehab!
> Today the world is filled with digital snappers who are interested  
> in making money from the horrors than a potential subject that might  
> be helped through intelligent and  positive use of a camera  
> illustrating their plight.
> Today it's the celebrity nonsense that makes up the pages of  
> worthless garbage when it could be used to help the unfortunates of  
> the world. And that is never going to happen!
> By the same token there is a great deal of positive imagery out  
> there of nice warm fuzzy pictures, great feel good life elements  
> sometimes we see it well illustrated right here on the LUG by  
> extremely talented photographers. But neither is this of interest to  
> the rag mags as it doesn't sell their crap productions simply  
> because "humanity...... not all of it," isn't interested simply  
> because they want blood and guts despite what we hear about people  
> wanting good news stories... Sure some do, the majority want the  
> dipstick garbage of celebrities and their ilk!
> If the case were different, LIFE and other photo documentary  
> magazines might well be still in production. I fear not ever seeing  
> this type of magazine again in our lifetime.
> Yes there is some activity in BLOGS and web sights, but the right in  
> your face hold it in your hands and read it???
> Never going to happen because the electronic industry is moving  
> faster than the development of digital cameras that left so many  
> "every day manufactures out of business!" Think Leica!!!!!!!!! :- 
> ( Plus the bigger list!
> ted
>
>
>
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