Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2009/08/13
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Aah Richard you need to come to terms with how Raw files are converted. You cannot say that camera X or Camera Y produces "better"' colour. You can say that Camera X ,using default conversion settings produces files that please me more. that is perfectly valid bit is not an objective assessment or comparison. You are describing the whatever default conversion settings in whatever conversion software you are using, I think. Unless you are shooting jpgs! In that case I shall be over to spank you shortly! Seriously this is a large subject of course. Just to pick Lightroom or Adobe Camera Raw for examples, the default conversion settings for M8 DNGs are quite conservative. They are only defaults. The E3 appears to be an excellent dSLR in my limited handling of it and files I have. However Nathan is indisputably correct. Your M8 and good Leica glass will produce demonstrably better images than the E3 and the best of the very good Oly lenses, all else being equal. I fear that 17 people will leap in with contrary positions some of them perhaps based on criticising Leica or M8s on principle or for entertainment. However, if you like to share some basics on your current process, I'm confident that the subject is worthy and you should end up better prepared to extract more from your new M8. You've only had it a few days, trust me your horizons are going to get bigger! Define better colour for you. More saturated, higher contrast? more natural appearing? What colour space are you converting into? How are you comparing the output? Computer screen? prints? Squinting at the LCD preview? What profile are you using in LR2? Can I suggest that you choose one attribute at a time , I mean focus is a separate issue for example, as is your exposure technique. 2009/8/13 Richard Man <richard.lists at gmail.com> > SO tell me, do you use autofocus with your M8? > > I didn't think so :-) > > I used autofocus on the E-3, and them fine adjust it using manual > focus if I have the need and have the time. I used the 35-100/2 > extensively, also the 12-60 and the 8mm fisheye. I also have used the > 35/1.4 ASPH and 50/14. ASPH and the 75/1.4 Lux quite a bit on the M8. > > There is NO way the M8 colors are better. Yes, I am shooting RAW, > Leica IR filters, using LR 2.4, camera profile. etc. Sharper? Yes, at > F1.4 :-) > > What camera would I use 80% of the time? The M8. It's smaller, and I > love the rangefinder, and yes, the Leica lens, pure and simple. Leica > is great, Leica is a joy. Heck, I'd buy a M9 if I have the money, but > lets not push a non-existent point :-) At least that's my experience > :-) > > On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 2:26 AM, FRANK > DERNIE<frank.dernie at btinternet.com> wrote: > > Hi Richard, > > the biggest problem with my E3 has been inaccurate and inconsistent > autofocus, compared to Nikon, particularly with long lenses. The 150mm is > capable of great results but it usually misfocuses. It is not only the > excessive AA filter causing the lack of sharpness. > > My M8 files are noticeably better, and I am able to use fast lenses. > > Frank > > > > > > -- > // richard m: richard @imagecraft.com > // w: http://www.imagecraft.com/pub/Portfolio09/ blog: > http://rfman.wordpress.com > // book: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/detail/745963 > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > -- Cheers Geoff Alles was eine gute Kamera braucht / Everything a good camera needs: http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/gh/ http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman