Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2009/07/29
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]> First of all: > > We have no idea how good the S2 is/will be. > > Second: > > We don't really know what the cost of the camera > will be in the US/Canada (Canadian likely to be > 10% more than US, as that is approximately the > current situation will Leica). The cost in the US > will probably be about the same in $ as the BP > price, plus 25% as that is an approximation of > the current relationship of Leica UK/US prices. > > > But the main thing is that we don't know how good > the S2 is. The Hassy/Fuji produces good files, > but there is certainly room for improvement, and > the S2 has a chance of bettering those. > > We always knew or should have known that Leica > was not going to provide a cheaper option. > > > > > At 1:29 AM -0400 7/30/09, Mark Rabiner wrote: >>> How do you do your math? >>> >>> Hassy sensor: 1798.3 sq.mm >>> Leica sensor: 1350 sq.mm >>> >>> That makes the Hassy sensor 33% larger than the Leica one. Or, the >>> other way round, the Leica sensor is 25% smaller than the Hassy one. >>> Either way, the difference is well more than 10%.\ >> >> >> The wonders of Math >> 30 x 45mm vs. >> 36.7 x 49.0 mm, >> Seems like s few more mm's on each side >> But I'll take your word for it. Its 33 not 10. >> Actually 33 is my favorite number. Or 33.3 to be exact. >> >> But the real way I screwed it up is the money >> Because if its 32,000 bucks instead of $21,225 then the Fuji Hassy you >> then >> could get might be in a different league. >> >> Wait a minute I'll check...... >> ...ok I'm back. >> The more expensive Hassy's have the same size sensor. >> >> But now I see the real problem...... >> >> The real problem is there are all kinds of cheaper Hassy H's and V's. >> $17,995.95 for the H3DII-31 SLR Digital Camera Kit with 80mm Lens >> $11,999.95 for the 503CWD SLR Digital Camera Kit with 40mm Lens >> >> And the one from my viewpoint as a photographer who didn't sell his Hassy >> Zeiss glass for peanuts but just held on to them is the 503CWD >> As its chump change 12 grand and fits all my glass. >> I can almost by three of them for the price of an S2. >> >> This for me makes the S2 dreams recede gently into the sunset. >> Building a set of S2 glass would cost what? >> >> SUMMARIT-S 1:2.5/70 ASPH ?3,096 >> SUMMARIT-S 1:2.5/70 ASPH CS ?4,025 >> APO-TELE-ELMAR-S 1:3.5/180 ?4,541 >> APO-TELE-ELMAR-S 1:3.5/180 CS ?5,160 >> APO-MACRO-SUMMARIT-S 1:2.5/120 ?4,541 >> APO-MACRO-SUMMARIT-S 1:2.5/120 CS ?5,160 >> SUMMARIT-S 1:2.5/35 ASPH ?3,612 >> SUMMARIT-S 1:2.5/35 ASPH CS ?4,231 >> >> >> But I have a head start of 33.3 years with Zeiss Hassy glass. >> >> >> Rabiner >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information What are the criticism of the Hassy medium format digital files Henning I've not heard them not that I'm all that tuned into that end. But thought they were phantasmagorically overwhelming overkill beyond all recognition. Too much? Mark William Rabiner