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Subject: [Leica] OT: Eurotrip Question
From: grduprey at mchsi.com (grduprey at mchsi.com)
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 05:00:29 +0000
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Unfortunately, US Cash Cards are not accepted in Germany.  Could not find a 
single retail store to take them.

Gene
-------------- Original message from Douglas Sharp <douglas.sharp at 
gmx.de>: -------------- 


> 
> Here in Germany, stores and restaurants much prefer direct debit cards 
> (Maestro, now accepted almost everywhere in the EU) drawing directly on 
> your account (with PIN, or without PIN but card ownership confirmed by 
> signature). There is also a chip on most cards that can be credited from 
> your account and makes the card usable in lieu of cash - mostly used for 
> telephone boxes, parking, bus-tickets and the like. 
> 
> VISA and Mastercard are accepted, but VERY reluctantly. 
> 
> However, for most transactions up to around 500 euros, cash rules. 
> 
> Cheers 
> Douglas 
> 
> 
> 
> Jayanand Govindaraj wrote: 
> > Michiel, 
> > There is a reason - Amex and Diners are 'charge cards', there is no 
> > credit 
> > limit, so they charge the retailer more as he is guaranteed to get his 
> > money. In Asia as well, retailers prefer Visa or Mastercard because 
> > commissions are less. I carry a Diners only for use in medical 
> > emergencies - 
> > I have not used it yet for that purpose, though. 
> > Cheers 
> > Jayanand 
> > 
> > On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 12:40 AM, Michiel Fokkema < 
> > michiel.fokkema at wanadoo.nl> wrote: 
> > 
> > 
> >> don't bother to bring AMEX. AMEX is very bad accepted here in Europe. 
> >> It's 
> >> too expensive for the merchants. VISA and Mastercard are very well 
> >> accepted. 
> >> At least the Netherlands are totally converting to the PIN system. As 
> >> well 
> >> for the ATM's as for the stores. 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Cheers, 
> >> 
> >> Michiel Fokkema 
> >> 
> >> Brian Reid wrote: 
> >> 
> >> 
> >>> I had not realised that the US did not use the PIN system yet 
> >>> 
> >>> North American bank cards use PINs only for debit/ATM transactions. 
> >>> Credit transactions just use a signature. And our cards do not have 
> >>> chips 
> >>> in them. 
> >>> 
> >>> My experience is that the most universal form of access to money when 
> >>> I 
> >>> travel is an ATM/debit card with a 4-digit PIN. Being the sort of 
> >>> person who 
> >>> always has a backup Plan B, I carry two such cards, issued by 
> >>> different 
> >>> banks that use different debit networks. 
> >>> 
> >>> Though because of the epidemic of banks buying other banks, most cards 
> >>> issued by nationwide financial institutions are members of 3 or more 
> >>> debit 
> >>> networks. 
> >>> 
> >>> 
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In reply to: Message from gregj_lorenzo at hotmail.com (Greg Lorenzo) ([Leica] OT: Eurotrip Question)
Message from simon.apekop at gmail.com (simon jessurun) ([Leica] OT: Eurotrip Question)
Message from reid at mejac.palo-alto.ca.us (Brian Reid) ([Leica] OT: Eurotrip Question)
Message from reid at mejac.palo-alto.ca.us (Brian Reid) ([Leica] OT: Eurotrip Question)
Message from Frank.Dernie at btinternet.com (Frank Dernie) ([Leica] OT: Eurotrip Question)
Message from reid at mejac.palo-alto.ca.us (Brian Reid) ([Leica] OT: Eurotrip Question)
Message from michiel.fokkema at wanadoo.nl (Michiel Fokkema) ([Leica] OT: Eurotrip Question)
Message from jayanand at gmail.com (Jayanand Govindaraj) ([Leica] OT: Eurotrip Question)
Message from douglas.sharp at gmx.de (Douglas Sharp) ([Leica] OT: Eurotrip Question)