Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2009/07/08
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]I decided to go with the 90/2.8 current lens and it works out quite well on the ZI camera. You can't count on exacting framing esp. on the edge but other wise is a very nice lens. ernie On Jul 8, 2009, at 6:35 PM, Mark Kronquist wrote: > I akways liked and still do the last M Rokkor > On Jul 8, 2009, at 5:15 PM, Geoff Hopkinson wrote: > >> Leica have an alternative in their current line up also. Tiny when >> collapsed >> and has some other tricks up its sleeve too, of course. >> For travel or when lightest weight is most important, I'm thinking >> that it >> is a good alternative to the larger (and superb) APO 75 and 90 >> http://en.leica-camera.com/photography/m_system/lenses/2191.html >> >> 2009/7/9 Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> >> >>> http://www.bjp-online.com/public/showPage.html?page=864877 >>> >>> Jonathan Eastland has just reviewed this new 85 and the new 15mm >>> CV M for >>> the The British Journal of Photography which I get regular emails >>> from I'm >>> glad I can read British. >>> Its being called the >>> >>> Zeiss ZM Tele-Tessar T* 85mm f/4 >>> >>> And its just out if its out yet at all! >>> >>> It's a bit smaller than my 90 Elmarit, Jonathan says. >>> Which I take out with me when I'm looking for a more lightweight >>> option to >>> my awesome 90 APO ASPH. But the Elmarit is still heavy as hell. >>> Twice as >>> heavy as I normally like to have up front there. >>> The new Cosina made ZM 85 is for sure bigger them my LTM 90 elmar >>> which >>> his >>> also f4. >>> But smaller than the current yet discontinued Elmarit M designed >>> for NASA. >>> I love f4 glass on my Leicas why? >>> Because I don't have to look through the darned thing. >>> Nothing is made darker and harder to focus at f4; >>> - it just makes for a super compact flare free optic; >>> Which cost less money. >>> For me that's getting my cake and eating it too. >>> >>> Jonathan is impressed with the classic optical design of this new >>> 85 for >>> the >>> Leica M and what they've done to extend that. >>> He says it does better at f22 than older Leitz 90mm glass. >>> But I bet my Elmar does better at f32. >>> (the ZV only goes to f22) >>> I'm an f32 and be there kinda guy and yes I've heard the phrase >>> "diffraction >>> limited". >>> >>> Naturally I can get the adaptor and shoot my own tiny LTM Elmar 90 >>> f4 on my >>> M's. >>> But it might look kinda silly. >>> Its kind of skinny thing like a pinky. People might laugh at me. >>> And I'm >>> sensitive. >>> >>> Slow compact glass is where its at I keep saying rinse and repeat. >>> But Mr. Kobayashi at Cosina always got it. >>> Now the Zeiss people he's working with also have got it. I bet he >>> talked >>> them into it. >>> Zeiss in Germany has been offering a f/2, 85mm Sonnar T* monster >>> which >>> cost >>> a fortune and really was a Zeiss lens made in Germany. Generally >>> you can >>> tell by the price. If it cost $ 2,912.00 (B&H) then its made by >>> Carl Zeiss >>> AG in Oberkochen. >>> >>> We don't need all that size and weight in front of what's supposed >>> to be >>> compact camera system, the Leica M. its nice to not have a blocked >>> viewfinder and a front heavy camera. >>> >>> Fast glass is an SLR need. You're always wanting the groundglass >>> to be >>> brighter. So you can then stop down a little and really get it. >>> People think they need speed where all they're looking for is >>> "brightness" >>> and the leeway to know they've got their focus. >>> >>> An M needs a complete F4 option from wide to tele. >>> Like it did in the day. The 50s and 60's. >>> >>> So they've come out with this classic f4 and had Cosina do it. >>> I love the Zeiss chrome front rim design like on a Contarex. >>> >>> Cosina always willing to come out with a more humane option for the >>> monsters >>> the other camera companies make. But Kaufmann's catching on. >>> I do notice the new 18 and slow 24. >>> >>> I don't think we need a whole lens line of f1.4's. >>> We need f4's not f1.4's. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Mark William Rabiner >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Cheers >> Geoff >> Alles was eine gute Kamera braucht / Everything a good camera needs: >> >> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/gh/ >> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information