Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2009/05/28
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]no need to take it down it is relevant to anyone following along and wanting to get some rough idea about these various formats, color depths, fine detail rendering, etc. didn't intend to criticize the image. uploaded jpg's viewed through browsers at 72 dpi simply do not get to the visual heart of the matter. Regards, George Lottermoser george at imagist.com http://www.imagist.com http://www.imagist.com/blog http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist On May 28, 2009, at 7:25 PM, Geoff Hopkinson wrote: > Hi George. > Yep, > huh? > yep, > yep. > Artefacts then from the jpg conversion after. Owing to the detail > content > the jpg version with minimum compression is BIGGER than the losslessly > compressed DNG. (8MB vs ~5MB) > . > But I was just putting up something in somewhat similar conditions > to Ming's > shot for anyone else following the discussion. > I'll take it down and anyone intersted can send me a note > 2009/5/29 George Lottermoser <imagist3 at mac.com> > >> certainly a nice sample >> but also a tad artifacty >> >> the only way to really make this kind of judgement >> is to look at the actual raw files and large prints. >> >> also >> Ming is shooting with M8 and knows how the files appear >> >> Regards, >> George Lottermoser >> george at imagist.com >> http://www.imagist.com >> http://www.imagist.com/blog >> http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist >> >> On May 28, 2009, at 7:14 PM, Geoff Hopkinson wrote: >> >> For comparison if you are interested. Go to my temp gallery. Last >> shot is >>> uncropped from M8 with the APO Summicron 75 ASPH. Downconverted >>> to jpg and >>> sRGB. Capture and some web sharpening applied. >>> Clicking on thumbnail will go direct to full size jpg of about >>> 3MB (light >>> compression). >>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/gh/te/ >>> >>> >>> >>> 2009/5/29 Thein Onn Ming <mingthein at gmail.com> >>> >>> For George, Mark and anybody else who might be interested...some >>> full >>>> sized >>>> files (JPEG, converted from RAW using ACR) from the D3x (with >>>> 24-70/2.8 >>>> and >>>> 105VR micro; arguably two of the best lenses Nikon has today) and >>>> Hasselblad >>>> CFV 16MP back (with 80/2.8 standard lens). >>>> >>>> *CAVEATS*: The CFV was shot handheld, available light except for >>>> the >>>> landscape shot. I'd use only the landscape to judge quality. We >>>> were >>>> going >>>> to do a studio shoot, but the back kept bricking itself requiring >>>> multiple >>>> battery-out resets (kinda like the first M8 I used when shooting >>>> C mode >>>> and >>>> discrete advance) but eventually just bricked itself. The D3x >>>> was shot >>>> entirely handheld, though the watch shot was with studio >>>> lighting (aside >>>> from photojournalism, watch photography is my other speciality. >>>> When I >>>> did >>>> it commercially I was using a D2H or D200 and the 85/2.8 PC >>>> Micro, not >>>> MF.) >>>> >>>> EXIF data intact but ignore the 'blad data because it doesn't >>>> register >>>> aperture, and I'm pretty sure the shutter speeds are all wrong. >>>> D3x of >>>> course tells you everything including the nutritional content of my >>>> breakfast of three days prior. Hosting on fickr because I don't >>>> have the >>>> server bandwidth otherwise. >>>> >>>> 'Blad >>>> http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3409/3573849245_4776a4c694_o.jpg >>>> http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3639/3573842195_769c55cfb0_o.jpg >>>> http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3561/3573839191_da9b5f0bf1_o.jpg >>>> >>>> >>>> D3x >>>> http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3572/3573831647_f85b31aa81_o.jpg >>>> http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3610/3574628948_2e7197f2ff_o.jpg >>>> http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3589/3574623624_70e7d3ae08_o.jpg >>>> >>>> Note the fine texture resolved by the D3x in the lady's top. >>>> >>>> >>>> For some odd reason, looking at the images again, the 'blad output >>>> reminds >>>> me a lot of the M8. Maybe it's the highlight tone bias and lack >>>> of AA >>>> filter. >>>> >>>> Ming >>>> >>>> THEIN Onn Ming >>>> *photohorologer ming at www.mingthein.com >>>> www.flickr.com/mingthein >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>> information >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Cheers >>> Geoff >>> 'Life's not B&W, except at both ends' >>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/gh/ >>> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> > > > > -- > Cheers > Geoff > 'Life's not B&W, except at both ends' > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/gh/ > http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information