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Subject: [Leica] IMG: swine flu slide show
From: kididdoc at cox.net (Steve Barbour)
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 22:17:30 -0700
References: <B6C9EC6F-7C5C-4B0A-A305-BA23B69FF5C2@mac.com> <42C933CD-3137-4F02-9DD0-0570977EF714@cox.net> <EB485C0E-B042-43BD-8BA2-CC3DE1EC0A86@mac.com> <79F109B8-2E25-430F-8C3E-E9806E87660E@cox.net> <3cad89990904271847l4149c5c1k1c4fdedb298188af@mail.gmail.com> <77CCC776-9B72-4C94-9086-CA858B84D96C@cox.net> <3cad89990904272205p77c44d49y25e7f57e12915fd8@mail.gmail.com>

On Apr 27, 2009, at 10:05 PM, Jayanand Govindaraj wrote:

> Some more on swine flu:
>
> http://www.slate.com/id/2217019/?from=rss



thanks, a fine article analyzing the strange inconsistencies in the  
data...


Steve


>
> Cheers
> Jayanand
>
> On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 7:45 AM, Steve Barbour <kididdoc at cox.net>  
> wrote:
>>
>> On Apr 27, 2009, at 6:47 PM, Jayanand Govindaraj wrote:
>>
>>> George/Steve,
>>> Tell me, is this another Bird Flu where all of 100 people died
>>> worldwide in the "epidemic" and everyone wore blue masks on flights
>>> for months out of panic, Singapore would not let people with a cold
>>> enter the country? Its more dangerous to drive a car or cross the
>>> road! Media hype whipping up mass hysteria! These sort of diseases  
>>> are
>>> usually totally localised and minor. I would tell the media to hype
>>> finding a preventive cure for malaria or typhoid or cholera or  
>>> similar
>>> proven mass killers if they want to help humanity at large.
>>
>>
>> it is hard to know just yet what this will be Jayanand...  it may  
>> be over
>> reaction based on early data from Mexico, but infections elsewhere,  
>> while
>> occurring at a high rate, don't seem especially severe, and the  
>> mortality
>> rate outside of  Mexico appears far lower than in that country...
>>
>> curious... !
>>
>>
>> yet we recall the flu epidemic starting in 1918 when 20-100 million  
>> people
>> died during 2 years....and for various good reasons scientists have
>> predicted a severe new flu variant for the past 5-6 years, and have  
>> been
>> working during that time on a new vaccine as well as containment  
>> scenarios
>> for an expected epidemic....
>>
>>
>> let's not be too hasty to draw conclusions about the direction this  
>> will
>> take...
>>
>> in any case, something potentially bad is going on here that demnds  
>> careful
>> evaluation and explanation, before we can safely draw conclusions.
>>
>> to be sure, at this point something about the situation just  
>> doesn't smell
>> right to me, so far it appears to be a very aggressive virus in  
>> terms of
>> human to human rates of spread, showing apparently  very high
>> pathogenicity/& mortality rate in one country, with low pathogenicity
>> elsewhere...
>>
>> various explanations are possible, among them, either something is  
>> wrong
>> with the data. or the virus has already changed...
>>
>>
>> Steve
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Jayanand
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 4:49 AM, Steve Barbour <kididdoc at cox.net>  
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Apr 27, 2009, at 3:55 PM, George Lottermoser wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> hopefully the discussion will not be about a "full blown pandemic"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> it is what it is, and that is yet to be seen...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> in the meantime the blue masks are clearly the most popular...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> for that new sporty look,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Steve
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> George Lottermoser
>>>>> george at imagist.com
>>>>> http://www.imagist.com
>>>>> http://www.imagist.com/blog
>>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist
>>>>>
>>>>> On Apr 27, 2009, at 4:37 PM, Steve Barbour wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Apr 27, 2009, at 9:08 AM, George Lottermoser wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <http://www.reuters.com/news/pictures/rpSlideshows?articleId=USRTXECIR#a=35
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thanks George,  it occurs to me we might discuss all this  
>>>>>> further here
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> some point,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Steve
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> George Lottermoser
>>>>>>> george at imagist.com
>>>>>>> http://www.imagist.com
>>>>>>> http://www.imagist.com/blog
>>>>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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