Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2009/03/26
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Well most of Leitz glass of the 60's on I'd think would be viable today commercially.... They'd not stand out as being unsharp or lacking contrast or anything else in a print of normal size, 11x14 inch. I shoot with a 40 Summicron C Leitz I think the vintage is early 70's. And can be bought for quite a few hundred less than a used 90's 50 Summicron perhaps. The prints I make form this lens do not stand out as being from an "old" lens. Looks as good as anything else I've got and the rest of what I've got is current glass I'd bought new mainly in the late 90's. Mark William Rabiner > From: Steve Barbour <kididdoc at cox.net> > Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 19:37:41 -0700 > To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > Subject: Re: [Leica] Another 75mm-Summilux-on-M8 example > > > On Mar 26, 2009, at 7:32 PM, Mark Rabiner wrote: > >> Because if I didn't I would invest in a different company. >> Optics is a science which progresses. >> People and companies learn with every lens they make. >> The optics of today is better than the optics of previous decades. >> Nikon, Canon, Zeiss all companies glass out performs the daylights >> out of >> its glass from the previous decades. >> I'm a photographer >> I'm not looking for a nostalgic fingerprint. >> I'm looking for resolution and contrast. > > sure... sounds good, > > except when every economic pressure says > > "make less for more" > > > > > > Steve > > >> >> >> >> Mark William Rabiner >> >> >> >>> From: Steve Barbour <kididdoc at cox.net> >>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >>> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:11:51 -0700 >>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Another 75mm-Summilux-on-M8 example >>> >>> >>> On Mar 26, 2009, at 1:03 PM, Mark Rabiner wrote: >>> >>>> I was for some reason not absorbing the fact that this was the old >>>> 75. The >>>> Summilux. But thinking it was the new 75, the Summicron. >>>> Sorry. >>>> I'm normally assuming the latest from Leica is going to be the best. >>> >>> >>> errrr... >>> >>> >>> why ? >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Mark William Rabiner >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> From: Jeff Moore <jbm at jbm.org> >>>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >>>>> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:40:10 -0400 >>>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Another 75mm-Summilux-on-M8 example >>>>> >>>>> 2009-03-24-23:49:49 Mark Rabiner: >>>>>> Is it the sharpest lens in the history of photography? >>>>>> I think so. >>>>> >>>>> Except of course it isn't. Apples to apples (if maybe red apples to >>>>> green apples), with fast shutter speeds and low ISOs to show it >>>>> off, the >>>>> amazing 75mm Apo-ASPH Summicron at f/2 beats it obviously in >>>>> contrast, >>>>> fine detail, corner goodness -- whether the Summilux is at f/1.4, >>>>> f/ >>>>> 2, >>>>> f/2.8... or maybe elsewhere. And the Summicron is shorter and >>>>> lighter: >>>>> all-around handier. I cannnot tell a lie: I own the 75/2, and I >>>>> use it >>>>> whenever I can, like when I expect for the light to be reasonably >>>>> bright. >>>>> >>>>> But the Summicron doesn't go to 11. I mean f/1.4. So using it, >>>>> I'd >>>>> have had to try to hand-hold twice as slow a shutter speed. Might >>>>> not >>>>> have worked. There are also some touchy-feely differences in the >>>>> way >>>>> the lenses render stuff. But basically... f/1.4 is darned handy >>>>> when >>>>> there isn't enough light. Because the next ISO up is really >>>>> raggedy >>>>> looking, and the next shutter speed down (1/45) would've been >>>>> pretty >>>>> wobbly for a 75. Even 1/90 can be hit-or-miss. >>>>> >>>>>> I'm looking at eye lashes; >>>>>> Individual ones, you can count them. >>>>>> And the split ends at the ends of them >>>>>> >>>>>> Indoors wide open hand held. >>>>> >>>>> I'm glad you see my point, Mark. I know you're a big fan of >>>>> compact, >>>>> light, slow, super-duper-sharp lenses, which make sense for someone >>>>> like >>>>> you who apparently goes outside a lot. For much of the day, >>>>> there's a >>>>> really bright light turned on out there; f/4 is practical. So you >>>>> often >>>>> make fun of the large, heavy Summiluxen they've been introducing. >>>>> But I >>>>> seem to find myself making about 80% of my pictures in rooms at >>>>> night, >>>>> and an excellent fast lens makes me really happy. >>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/jbm0/3358536031/sizes/o/ >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>>> information >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information