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Subject: [Leica] Your thoughts on a Voigtl ä nder Lens: Response to Mark
From: grdalton at hotmail.com (Gary Dalton)
Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 13:53:49 -0700
References: <BLU146-W1953635E75837B0F9A7B0C6900@phx.gbl> <C5EFFE29.4BD20%mark@rabinergroup.com>

Thanks for sharing this information...

I have a Viso II, probably a IIa, based on some descriptions I've read. The 
only lenses I have for it are a 65 Elmar and a 200 Telyt. A while back, 
someone indicated that I might be able to use my old 90 Elmar with the Viso 
for limited close up work. I don't know if I interpretted that correctly...

The notion of a bellows and the need to acquire a number of adapters was 
mentioned earlier. I might go there eventually, but I can keep myself busy 
without doing macro... at least until my M2 returns from a CLA...

Thanks again for your comments...

Regard,
Gary

> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 15:28:41 -0400
> From: mark at rabinergroup.com
> To: lug at leica-users.org
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Your thoughts on a Voigtl ? nder Lens: Response to 
> Mark
> 
> In response to which macro for the M2;
> Macro is not supposed to be in a rangefinder cameras ballgame yet we more
> than make do. I love Viso but don't think its necessary to bring along on a
> trip for close-ups.  And though the dual range is highlight thought of I'm
> not likely to own one soon.
> 
> I had a chart from the late 90s on my fridge for the longest time of all 
> the
> Leica glass which filters they fit and what the smallest magnification they
> fit. I recall my 135mm f/3.4 Apo Telyt M get in very tightly. Parallax 
> never
> bothered me all that much.
> The current 90's get in fairly tightly as well.
> As does a plain vanilla 50 Summicron.
> 
> If you want to shoot a be on a flower then get a Viso or carry along a 
> Nikon
> body with a 100 macro on the front of it.
> When it bumps up against your Leica in your bag it wont be the first time.
> Or get a Leica SL or R and 100 macro I bet those are going for good deals.
> 
> 
> Super pricy high end German enlarging lenes costing hundreds now can be
> found in most grab boxes at the camera stores with the bent filter rings 
> and
> flash cases. For a song.
> Play around with those but as its an M2 you don't get TTL. Whoopee!, I'd 
> get
> an M6 for that or skip it.
> 
> Oh you'd want a bellows with your Viso that's gotten to be just part of the
> deal.
> 
> 
> Mark William Rabiner
> 
> 
> 
> > From: Gary Dalton <grdalton at hotmail.com>
> > Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> > Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 23:41:56 -0700
> > To: LUG <lug at leica-users.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Leica] Your thoughts on a Voigtl ? nder Lens: Response to 
> > Mark
> > 
> > 
> > You make an excellent point.
> > 
> > In the "29 posts" -- I hope you didn't take time to count them all -- the
> > subject of equipment certainly dominates, and there isn't a word from me 
> > or a
> > question from others about how a certain lens or lenses might drive what 
> > I am
> > interested in doing. So here are my notions.
> > 
> > I like to shoot people, up close in their environment, with substantial
> > background near and around them. I want the shot to grab enough of the
> > surroundings to tell the story of who they are, where they are, what 
> > artifacts
> > are in their environment, and what they're doing. I would like to do a 
> > better
> > job of this especially in tight quarters.
> > 
> > I like to take photos of urban settings:  I want that building, fountain,
> > plaza, park, intersection, etc. -- all of it -- not pieces of it. And, 
> > if not
> > a dominating feature, I want as much of that specific feature's 
> > environmental
> > context as possible.
> > 
> > I can say something similar about natural outdoor settings. Panoramas 
> > interest
> > me as do massive natural structures or living things. I want to shoot 
> > all of
> > El Capitan at sunset and include the trees, the sky, the ripples Merced 
> > River
> > in natural proportion in the same shot. I would like to capture the 
> > desolation
> > and the expanse of, say, a ghost town like Bodie, but with the artifacts
> > (buildings and mills, etc.) not lost in that expanse. I want all of a 
> > Giant
> > Sequoia.
> > 
> > Finally, and not related to the Voigtlander 21, I love macro work. 
> > Sticking a
> > macro lens down the mouth of a bearded iris for its brilliant colors, 
> > shades,
> > and shapes -- and whatever else might be inside. I'd like to take a shot 
> > of a
> > seed pushing out of the dirt, a bee in an almond blossom, and a paper 
> > wasp
> > constructing its nest.
> > 
> > Is that better, Mark? With respect to macro work with an M2, which lens 
> > would
> > you suggest?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 23:35:18 -0400
> >> From: mark at rabinergroup.com
> >> To: lug at leica-users.org
> >> Subject: Re: [Leica] Your thoughts on a Voigtl ? nder Lens
> >> 
> >> Wide enough for WHAT!????
> >> 
> >> No ones asking and your not saying.
> >> On a thread of 29 posts.
> >> 
> >> Me I'm tired of my ball peen hammer I'm thinking of getting a framing
> >> hammer.... Its all so meaningless!
> >> 
> >> A lens is a tool;
> >> Talk PHOTOGRAPHY!
> >> WHAT KIND DO YOU DO?????
> >> SUBJECT MATTER???
> >> URL for a gallery?
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Mark William Rabiner
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> > 
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