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Subject: [Leica] FS 35mm Summicron
From: sethrosner at nycap.rr.com (Seth Rosner)
Date: Sat Jan 17 13:22:58 2009
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Same series (version), Bob?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Robert Meier" <robertmeier@usjet.net>
To: "Leica Users Group" <lug@leica-users.org>
Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 4:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Leica] FS 35mm Summicron


> Seth,
>
> That's a very impressive story, both about how well built a Leica
> lens is, and how good the Leica New Jersey service is/was.   I should
> reconsider selling this lens, except I have another one that is newer
> and is even nicer!
>
> Bob
>
> On Jan 17, 2009, at 12:37 PM, Seth Rosner wrote:
>
>> Hi Bob, the lists I have show that your 35/2 Summicron is from 1972
>> production that commenced at #2503101 through 2556500. I believe
>> that Steve's serial numbers refer only to cameras. I bought one of
>> these lenses shortly after their introduction in 1969 or 70. Was in
>> my kit for a four-week visit to South and East Africa = 700+
>> Kodachromes.
>>
>> One afternoon in our hotel room in Nairobi after returning from an
>> 8-day tour of the Serengeti, I put down my M4 w/ 35/2 Summicron
>> attached to answer the phone. I had forgotten to twist the lens to
>> full lock. When I picked it up, the lens plunged onto a tile floor,
>> bending the rear flange. I literally burst into sweat, told my wife
>> that I had to go for a short walk to calm down. Returned to hotel
>> room, looked once again at bent flange, shook lens vigorously to
>> ascertain if there were loose glass elements, diaphragm blades or
>> other un-Leica-like anomalies,  etc, tried it on the M4 to which it
>> seemd to mate as usual. Had no back-up 35mm so used it balance of
>> the trip. On return to NYC, I called Vince Fochtman, the lens guy
>> at Leitz/Rockleigh whom I knew pretty well, told him the story and
>> said I was sending him the lens; if there was damage to the glass
>> or mechanicals that could not be made perfect,  please just return
>> the lens with a bill and I would sell it and find another; if it
>> could be made optically and mechanically flawless despite cosmetic
>> flaws, please repair the lens. A week passed, my lens returned with
>> a Leitz invoice that had no charge. I called Vince and inquired. He
>> said the lens was fine, glass clean, clear, not decentered a
>> micron, just as good as it had come from Wetzlar; he had been able
>> very gently and little by little to bend the bent- out-of-shape
>> flange into perfect alignment, didn't need any parts, so no charge!
>> Talk about robust fortress-like construction! I would like to think
>> that current production is just as strong. Who knows?
>>
>> Enjoy your Summicron!
>>
>> Seth
>>
>> Seth
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Meier"
>> <robertmeier@usjet.net>
>> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug@leica-users.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 11:19 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] FS 35mm Summicron
>>
>>
>>> Seth,
>>>
>>> Thanks for that confirmation.   Where can I go to check the serial
>>> numbers of lenses?   All I know about is Stephen Gandy's lists of
>>> body serial numbers.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Bob
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jan 17, 2009, at 7:06 AM, Seth Rosner wrote:
>>>
>>>> it is indeed the second version
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Meier"
>>>> <robertmeier@usjet.net>
>>>> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug@leica-users.org>
>>>> Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 8:02 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] FS 35mm Summicron
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I have a 35mm Summicron, pre-aspheric, that shows wear on the
>>>>> barrel
>>>>> (no dents or dings) and has mint glass.  With both caps.   I
>>>>> think it
>>>>> is 2nd version, but I'm not sure.   The serial number is 2541855,
>>>>> $750
>>>>>
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