Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2009/01/04
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]If you could use my involvement, I'll be more than glad to help. sd On Jan 4, 2009, at 2:33 AM, Alastair Firkin wrote: > > I want to outline my thoughts going forward with the Centenary > project. We do not have enough interest yet, but by firming up some > of the details I hope to encourage others to put their names into > the ring. I have now listed all the interested parties in the > proposed Leica Century project. We have only 37 thus far. That is a > fairly small number, and too small to run a full 5 year project. I > am glad to see so many coming forward who were not involved in > FOM2, and so many of my old friends prepared to fire up again ;-) > > I want it to be different to FOM2, but I want to learn from it as > well. The key to this project is having as many different people > involved as possible and pushing them to get out photograph the > world around them and begin to improve their photography to a level > which attracts general approval. What follows will be familiar to > those of you who were in FOM2 but there are some changes proposed: > in particular, all forms of photographic subject are included. > > I know that there are many of those already putting their hands up > who will help with judging and mentoring those of you who might > feel intimidated. I am NOT trying to replace the yearbook. The > yearbook is a great success and is a wonderful opportunity for all > of us to have images published. I am NOT trying to displace Brian?s > monthly LUG image fest. It too has been a wonderful addition, which > keeps all of us thinking about images over the course of the year. > Submitting images to either of the above or doing a long time LUG > favorite the PAW does not exclude you from being in Leica Century. > It helps all of us to edit out our images. The role of ?Leica > Century? will be to promote new images (not a retrospective) gather > the best of those images together and present them to the world > through the web and hopefully a book, and to allow all of us who > want to improve our photography to be in a competitive and > encouraging environment. > > Let?s look at what we are proposing and what we are NOT. Firstly, > this is not going to be some ?official? celebration. Leica showed > no real interest in FOM2 other than to wish it well. How could > they? The LUG is a small group on a world scale, and Leica would > only consider being involved in a much ?broader? vision. This does > not mean I have given up hope of help from Solms, only I don?t > think its likely. My plan is to write to the CEO, send him a copy > of FOM2, and see what response it brings. > > We are a family of friends, who came together due to some interest > in Leica cameras and photography. Brian?s group has been going for > a long time, and as some have mentioned, the LUG has an enduring > simple quality that has kept people ?coming back for more? even > when they have abandoned Leica equipment. FOM2 started in 99/2000. > It was a fascinating time for photography. When we first started > there were quite a few professionals in the team, but the film > world was turned on its head almost as soon as we started, and by > the third year only a few of the professionals remained. This > ?threatened? the project, but in some ways, it also strengthened > it, as lovers of traditional photography became more active, and > I?m sure that many of us had improved because of the project and > the help we had had from the pros, so that the quality really did > not fall off, and we had a broader range of people represented in > the final publication, (over 140). > > I can tell you, however, that out of the several thousand images > which were submitted every year, it was rare for many images to be > carried over. There were rarely many more than 100 which were > selected by the judges. I also learnt that no one person can choose > images, there is an enormous variation in style and taste. > Photographers are also (from my experience and this includes me) > the WORST judges of the value of their own images out in the big > bad world. What seems like a great shot to you will often fall > short when viewed by someone who either comes from a different > culture or simply was not there. So the first question to answer is > will the project be juried, and the answer is yes. > I think the judging of images during the 5 years of FOM2 worked > brilliantly. It threw up a huge variety of images, styles, points > of view and subject matter, so I will go with that again. We will > call for judges each year, I will send them the images on a CD or > via a download. All images will be random and anonymous (as I can > make them) and will be judged by you, the members of the project. I > collate the votes, I don?t vote, and I then sort and present the > final selection. > > Does this mean that someone might miss out on getting an image into > the final selection? In theory yes, but I don?t think there were > many if any photographers who submitted more than 10 images a year > in the 5 years, who did not end up with a fine image that was > selected by the judges. We even had mentoring for those who felt > they were missing out, and this helped them to raise the quality of > their submission. BUT, I will for this project make a promise. > Anyone who submits 10 or more images for each of the 5 years of the > project will have their best image included in the final selection. > > Now for the vexing question of equipment. Ideally, I would love to > only include Leica cameras lenses and enlargers ;-) BUT experience > tells me that we would have a very limited range of images to > choose from. This is not an official Leica project, but a project > by the LUG some of whom don?t use Leicas at all, and certainly > often don?t for their best work. Leica cameras (and lenses) created > a style of photography which is what many of us appreciate and > love. Other camera operators copied Leica, and Leica also copied > others when their ideas were superior. I know some don?t feel any > SLR image is really ?Leica Photography?, but I?m sure Leica will > never disown Ted?s olympic images or Rosling?s polar bears. I also > have sympathy for those who were ?forced? away from Leica when they > did not have any real form of Digital camera to offer. I also have > some sympathy for those who find the digital cameras from Leica > overly expensive and would love a digital back for ! > their Leica glass. > > I admit, that by celebrating the Leica turning 100 it would seem > obvious that we should showcase Leica equipment and I intend to do > so. Its also the 175th anniversary of photography, but I don?t want > to turn this exercise into an unmanageable size. I therefore > propose the following. > > As with FOM2, all images taken with Leica cameras and or Lenses > will be acceptable. This will include ?badged? cameras. If its good > enough for the company, its good enough for me, and it allows some > people to be involved who cannot afford an M8, S2, DMR, or R10 etc. > I did have quite a lot of criticism in FOM2 for the Leica only > policy, especially since the project was celebrating a landmark > exhibition in photography not Leica itself. We will there fore > showcase Leica, put it up against the hybrids and because this is a > project of the LUG celebrating the 100 years of ?Leica? type > photography I will allow some images taken with non-Leica equipment > but severely limit the numbers. At the moment I envisage around > 10%. Iff Leica becomes involved, they may take some or all of the > images and may want to remove non-leica images, but it remains our > project till then. > > At the moment I would still like to aim for about 100 images per > year. That might prove to be too many. If we are looking at that > number, there will need to be more than one image per photographer > (unless the numbers increase greatly), so I won?t limit it at this > stage. I will also not limit the number of submissions from each > individual BUT if it gets unwieldy and I will decide that it may be > necessary to do so, and I may limit the total number an individual > can have selected each year. Those sorts of decisions need to be > fluid at this stage and will become more obvious as we progress. > > Digital manipulation is fine, but should be included in the data > when it goes beyond simple adjustments: I think you will all know > what I mean without me having to stipulate exactly. As with FOM2 > the images will be vetted so that offensive work is not included. > Any controversy will be decided by the ?team? if it becomes > necessary. All submitted work will remain copyright to the > photographer and must be original work. All photographers will > agree on joining that their selected images can be used on the > Leica Century presentations, images can be withdrawn by the > photographer before each year?s judging. This is a non-profit > project. Iff there were any profits (and I see only expenses at > this stage) they would be returned to the photographers involved or > donated to an agreed charity. > > Remember, the aim of the project is to get us out there taking > images, seeing and interpreting the world and improving the way we > present our visions. As I previously mentioned, all subject matter > will be included. I will be requiring everyone to give me some data > on their work, and I will want (as I did for FOM2) a simple > agreement from anyone wishing to be involved. I will also collect a > short CV from you hoping to use it in the final presentation: I > know I didn?t for FOM2, but there was not much room left and the > data was so disjointed that it did not make sense. > > I have also learnt that I must get ?printable? files on record from > the time of submission. Last time I ended up with quite a lot of > images that were only 600 pixels in dimension. This was due to > losing people. Some died and some disappeared. Finally, I want the > project to be prospective not retrospective, in keeping with the > aim of pushing the LUG to better photography. All images must be > made from 2008 onwards till the end of the project: I would hope to > publish early in 2014. > > Its the journey that is important and although we want the final > product to excel, I want everyone who joins to have fun and learn. > I have now outlined the general basis on which I will run this > project if we get enough interest. I will need some help with web > pages and submission boards I think. I don?t envisage any costs at > this stage. I am still open to suggestions even if it doesn?t sound > like it. I am aware that decisions by committee usually don?t get > made, so I will keep overall charge. > > Cheers Alastair > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information